WotC Dragonlance: Everything You Need For Shadow of the Dragon Queen

WotC has shared a video explaining the Dragonlance setting, and what to expect when it is released in December.

World at War: Introduces war as a genre of play to fifth edition Dungeons & Dragons.

Dragonlance: Introduces the Dragonlance setting with a focus on the War of the Lance and an overview of what players and DMs need to run adventures during this world spanning conflict.

Heroes of War: Provides character creation rules highlighting core elements of the Dragonlance setting, including the kender race and new backgrounds for the Knight of Solamnia and Mage of High Sorcery magic-users. Also introduces the Lunar Sorcery sorcerer subclass with new spells that bind your character to Krynn's three mystical moons and imbues you with lunar magic.

Villains: Pits heroes against the infamous death knight Lord Soth and his army of draconians.

Notes --

• 224 page hardcover adventure
• D&D's setting for war
• Set in eastern Solamnia
• War is represented by context -- it's not goblins attacking the village, but evil forces; refugees, rumours
• You can play anything from D&D - clerics included, although many classic D&D elements have been forgotten
• Introductory scenarios bring you up to speed on the world so no prior research needed

 

[mamba]

then no killing someone for no crim is not good

weren't you the one saying

correct like I said I LOVE reading about villain protagonists that think they are the hero. It's fun. I loved when Dr Doom became Iron Man and I love aSoIaF but I'm not going to like if those books started labeling them as good.

There is more being said about the KP than 'he was a good man', a concept you are apparently familiar with. So why are you are ignoring the rest, despite this having been pointed out repeatedly. Because it is a good god making the same observation that you made for Dr Doom?

 

[Vaalingrade]

Surely this was said in jest? So funny if it is true.
Kinda like suggesting one should slay orc babies before they manifest evil through their actions.

TSR - Q&A with Gary Gygax

This is the multi-year Q&A sessions held by D&D co-creator Gary Gygax here at EN World, beginning in 2002 and running up until his sad pasing in 2008. Gary's username in the thread below is Col_Pladoh, and his first post in this long thread is Post #39.

www.enworld.org

Shockingly, it was said... here.

The paladin is modeled on the medieval paladins of Charlemagne, and they were surely a conflicted lot. What is and isn't chivalrous and honorable is up to the DM, but slaughtering baby orcs isn't likely to fall into either class. Slaughterind adult orcs converted to Lawful Good is likely acceptable, as it sends them on to a better reward, prevents them from backsliding to evil ways.

 

[Maxperson]

We are told he WAS a good man. Then a flaming mountain fell on him and he died.

Was is past tense. Fizban/Paladine doesn't say he was still good when he died, only that the kingpriest WAS a good man. Then he goes on to explain how too much good is bad which tells us that the kingpriest was bad(evil) when he died. And we know from his actions that he wasn't a good man well before he died.

 

[Maxperson]

Seems that destroying a continent would require all gods to participate.

Seems like 1 has enough power to do it and that 14 gods have much more than enough power to force the acquiescence of the other 7.

 

[mamba]

TSR - Q&A with Gary Gygax

This is the multi-year Q&A sessions held by D&D co-creator Gary Gygax here at EN World, beginning in 2002 and running up until his sad pasing in 2008. Gary's username in the thread below is Col_Pladoh, and his first post in this long thread is Post #39.

www.enworld.org

Shockingly, it was said... here.

lol, and not like in 1984 or so either

 

[Veltharis ap Rylix]

"I would like to revisit my theory that the Kingpriest was secretly a slaad..."

Is unceremoniously thrown through portal to Sigil again

 

[mamba]

Was is past tense. Fizban/Paladine doesn't say he was still good when he died, only that the kingpriest WAS a good man. Then he goes on to explain how too much good is bad which tells us that the kingpriest was bad(evil) when he died. And we know from his actions that he wasn't a good man well before he died.

more like 'his attempt to achieve a misguided and twisted understanding of good'

 

[Maxperson]

more like 'his attempt to achieve a misguided and twisted understanding of good'

Whatever his reasons for being evil... A misguided twisted understanding of good that results in evil acts = evil person.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

weren't you the one saying

yeah notice 'fun to read' isn't good... especially not 'exemplar of good'

There is more being said about the KP than 'he was a good man', a concept you are apparently familiar with. So why are you are ignoring the rest, despite this having been pointed out repeatedly. Because it is a good god making the same observation that you made for Dr Doom?

becuse it's being used as part of a 'balance between good and evil' when it's just evil

 

[Faolyn]

Let's back up a second and try to refocus.

The people supported the Kingpriest. It's not like he was some fascist dictator that held the people under his thumb. The people loved him. Loved him for generations - nearly a century. Loved him so much that they committed numerous atrocities and genocides (attempting to kill all non-humans, all wizards) over the decades and no one so much as batted an eye. They loved him so much that they actually literally worshipped him to the point where he was a step away from becoming a god.

All those Always Evil babies and children, all those Always Evil travelers and merchants and visitors. There were absolutely no dissidents, no people who disagreed, no people who tried to fight back, not a single person who wasn't so horrible as to deserve to die. Everybody who got killed was dyed-in-the-wool evilevilevil.

This is absolutely ridiculous and literally the most unrealistic part of the entire setting. Even grimdark settings aren't this ridiculous.

Now, @Faolyn apparently thinks that Krynn gods can just Thanos Snap the problem away. Wish all the bad people gone and everything is right in the world again. Except that's not what the text actually says. For one, the gods in Krynn cannot manifest in the setting - they can send avatars, but, not the gods themselves, so, they are limited as to what they can do. As well, the gods in the setting do not directly interfere. There are no god-kings in this setting. The gods are fairly hands off, most of the time.

Since, according to the stats presented in DLA, most of them were 20th-40th level spellcasters in multiple different spellcasting classes, they literally could cast wish many times each day. They may not be able to "Thanos Snap" the problem away, but they definitely had methods they could use other than just mass murder.

And if the gods are "fairly hands off, most of the time," then they don't suddenly get to be hands-on in order to commit genocide and still claim to be good.

I know it's a hard thing to accept, but, even good gods do horrible things. Good does not equal nice.

Genocide is not a good act. Even if it's of evil beings.