Dragonlance Dragonlance Philosophy thread

[billd91]

So, if person A think that mass murder is Good, and person B think that mass murder is Evil, person B the bad one here?!

Good grief.

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard to assume the wrong thing here. Based on Paul's context, this is more of a case of expressing severe judgment of an event in a literary work (which the backstory of the game setting is) implies the same severe judgment of the event it is based on in real world religious mythology. I mean, if you're gonna say that Paladine can't be good because of the Cataclysm, it sounds an awful lot like you're taking the same shot at any religion with divine retributional events like great floods, cycles of rise/decadence/repentance, and end times.

 

[Faolyn]

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard to assume the wrong thing here. Based on Paul's context, this is more of a case of expressing severe judgment of an event in a literary work (which the backstory of the game setting is) implies the same severe judgment of the event it is based on in real world religious mythology. I mean, if you're gonna say that Paladine can't be good because of the Cataclysm, it sounds an awful lot like you're taking the same shot at any religion with divine retributional events like great floods, cycles of rise/decadence/repentance, and end times.

I'm aware that's what he thinks. But he's wrong, because I have said repeatedly that I am specifically talking about the fantasy religion. It's up to him to learn how to separate the two in his mind.

If I wanted to discuss real-world religion, I would go to a real-world religion debate forum to do so.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard to assume the wrong thing here. Based on Paul's context, this is more of a case of expressing severe judgment of an event in a literary work (which the backstory of the game setting is) implies the same severe judgment of the event it is based on in real world religious mythology. I mean, if you're gonna say that Paladine can't be good because of the Cataclysm, it sounds an awful lot like you're taking the same shot at any religion with divine retributional events like great floods, cycles of rise/decadence/repentance, and end times.

and this is why we should leave real world religion at the door...

 

[billd91]

I'm aware that's what he thinks. But he's wrong, because I have said repeatedly that I am specifically talking about the fantasy religion. It's up to him to learn how to separate the two in his mind.

If I wanted to discuss real-world religion, I would go to a real-world religion debate forum to do so.

If you are aware that's what he thinks, then why were you mischaracterizing what he was saying in your response to him?

 

[Faolyn]

If you are aware that's what he thinks, then why were you mischaracterizing what he was saying in your response to him?

I didn't.

 

[Scribe]

Clearly, people who think they are good are also incapable of any sort of reflection, humility, decency, or actual ability to care about other people.

Seemingly.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Honestly, I think you're trying too hard to assume the wrong thing here. Based on Paul's context, this is more of a case of expressing severe judgment of an event in a literary work (which the backstory of the game setting is) implies the same severe judgment of the event it is based on in real world religious mythology. I mean, if you're gonna say that Paladine can't be good because of the Cataclysm, it sounds an awful lot like you're taking the same shot at any religion with divine retributional events like great floods, cycles of rise/decadence/repentance, and end times.

It's a sad rhetorical point to try to deflect shade from a work of fiction by painting critics as bigots. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Seemingly.

I think we have reached the laughable part where I'm not even sure this is a real discussion.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I don't have the adventure yet, so I can only go by reviews, and here on enworld multi posters said they did


here are the changes I have seen listed (and I like them)

That review was immediately (and correctly) corrected in the comments.

 

[Micah Sweet]

and this is why we should leave real world religion at the door...

Except we can't with Dragonlance.