Dragonlance Dragonlance Shadow of the Dragon Queen shows up in the wild!

[Micah Sweet]

I take issue with the assumptions built into that "spoiler." You put out a module like this with Soth as an antagonist and you no longer get to say "what happens." That isn't how RPGs work.

You can make an assumption. AD&D modules used to do that all the time.

 

[Weiley31]

Yeah, which is why all high level monsters should have legendary actions. They help mitigate that action economy loss.

I also think that BBEG/Big Player bosses/ETC should ALSO have the Unyielding Foe trait from the more recent Dark Souls The Role Playing Game. (The 5E version from Steamforged Games)

Unyielding Foe: Always goes first in Initiative and cannot be surprised.

 

[Weiley31]

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I LOVE the Takhisis side with the current 5E look and the dragon heads.

 

[Weiley31]

Also: is The Red Ruin new to Dragonlance 5E or has she always been present before in older Dragonlance?

 

[Faolyn]

The DL setting hasn't appeared in an official D&D product for well over a decade, and when it did, the setting did impose restrictions. I don't expect base edition books to mention previous ones, but settings (especially settings that do historically have restrictions) are a different matter.

How are they different? Dragonlance only had restrictions because the base game had restrictions, not because there was something unique about Dragonlance. Now, if Dragonlance had restrictions but Greyhawk and the Realms hadn't, you might have had a point. But they all had the same sorts of restrictions.

I also managed to locate a copy of the Dragonlance Campaign Setting for 3e--no, I didn't pirate it like a naughty person, I merely skimmed and closed the tab-and there weren't any restrictions. It said things like "<race> have little talent for this class," but that's no the same thing as saying they couldn't take that class. And even the prestige class for the Knights of Solamnia has said that they so far hadn't allowed dwarfs to be knighted (but had let half-elves in), not that non-human races were banned from taking the class.

 

[Micah Sweet]

How are they different? Dragonlance only had restrictions because the base game had restrictions, not because there was something unique about Dragonlance. Now, if Dragonlance had restrictions but Greyhawk and the Realms hadn't, you might have had a point. But they all had the same sorts of restrictions.

I also managed to locate a copy of the Dragonlance Campaign Setting for 3e--no, I didn't pirate it like a naughty person, I merely skimmed and closed the tab-and there weren't any restrictions. It said things like "<race> have little talent for this class," but that's no the same thing as saying they couldn't take that class. And even the prestige class for the Knights of Solamnia has said that they so far hadn't allowed dwarfs to be knighted (but had let half-elves in), not that non-human races were banned from taking the class.

I'm mostly talking races allowed in the setting barring special circumstances, which DL absolutely had in previous editions.

In any case, it doesn't matter. The sidebar is in the new book, which is what I wanted. All is well.

 

[darjr]

Red Ruin Miniatures

 

[pukunui]

Also: is The Red Ruin new to Dragonlance 5E or has she always been present before in older Dragonlance?

I think she's new. Google is only giving me results for D&D Beyond and the upcoming DL miniatures set.

 

[Faolyn]

I'm mostly talking races allowed in the setting barring special circumstances, which DL absolutely had in previous editions.

In any case, it doesn't matter. The sidebar is in the new book, which is what I wanted. All is well.

The 3e book also had a lot more races in it, including ogres, half-ogres, idra, minotaurs, centaurs, and both baaz and kapak draconians.

If someone who only has the 5e book wants to play a big tough strong race, they're outta luck unless the DM allows for a non-native race. And a lot of people like playing big tough strong races.

Unless there's a section that points them at MPMM for minotaurs and centaurs goliaths (reskinned as ogres) and tells them to reskin dragonborn, of course. But other 5e books have been pretty good so far at keeping all the available options in either the setting book or the PHB, not telling people they have to use a third book in order to play the setting properly.

 

[Micah Sweet]

The 3e book also had a lot more races in it, including ogres, half-ogres, idra, minotaurs, centaurs, and both baaz and kapak draconians.

If someone who only has the 5e book wants to play a big tough strong race, they're outta luck unless the DM allows for a non-native race. And a lot of people like playing big tough strong races.

Unless there's a section that points them at MPMM for minotaurs and centaurs goliaths (reskinned as ogres) and tells them to reskin dragonborn, of course. But other 5e books have been pretty good so far at keeping all the available options in either the setting book or the PHB, not telling people they have to use a third book in order to play the setting properly.

Yeah, the 3e book was great. The new book imo should have at least included the minotaur, and most of the others are good too. I wouldn't want dragonmen PCs in a DL game set in the WotL though. Era matters in most non-Eberron settings.