Dresden Files, who would you cast?

[FCWesel]

Yeah, SCIFI's movies are a JOKE at best, stunningly stupid and innept at worst.


Just watched DRESDEN, thought it was okay...First episodes are always tough...espeically when there's a large number of preconceptions like this would have.

I liked the RAVENMEN. Would have liked to seen Harry do a spell on screen.

Look forward to seeing the next couple of episodes.

 

[Mean Eyed Cat]

Yeah, I just watched it too. They changed some things from the books. And what happened to Bob?

 

[FCWesel]

Actually, Bob was fine. They just took a skull and gave it a bit more life by having Bob's ghostly image come out of it.

Cinematically, it WAS the better choice. Having Harry sit there and do "Hamlet Skull Chatting" would just not work in the TV/Video medium.

Some things work for TV, and some for Books. In the books the writer TELLs the reader how people feel and react without letting the "people in the scene" know. In TV, there's no "mental tells" so a character needs to SHOW things, a skull would not have worked. An actor's face was needed.

Believe me, doing a voiced-over skull with a light in it's eyes would have been a HELL of a lot cheaper then an actual actor.

 

[Nightfall]

Agreed.

I think they just decided it wouldn't work in a show that is more "action"/story driven than it's special effects. Which is as it should be. If I recall correctly, Harry's world of magic isn't all "flash and bang" spells. Some of it is quite subtle indeed.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Actually, Bob was fine. They just took a skull and gave it a bit more life by having Bob's ghostly image come out of it.

Cinematically, it WAS the better choice. Having Harry sit there and do "Hamlet Skull Chatting" would just not work in the TV/Video medium.

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I'd have prefered a dust-mote Bob, but no biggie. That said, I didn't care for the actual actor much at all, Bob lost all his fun in favor of being some brit guy.

Change for the sake of change was the VW=Jeep, but not a big deal.

They should have made a point about magic interfering with science though, if it was going to be an issue. SInce they didn't, I think it will be another part of the Dresden world that is lacking. Threshold's must have been too tough to explain, at least in the pilot. I really expected the pilot to have more explanation of the basics, but they didn't even really get into magic much at all.

I can understand making it his Uncle, though they should have made it clearer they meant "maternal uncle" earlier I think. I didn't care for most of the dad/uncle stuff though.

I guess no Mister either.

All in all, can't judge acting by the first episode, but no one was particularly good in this episode. It might be a decent series, but enjoying it will probably involve disassociating it from Dresden Files' books in my mind.

Actual plot of the episode was lacking IMO. The Ravenfolk were okay, the skinwalker was boring and silly. Disabling his wards like that was bleh, the White Council mage in general led a big chunk of Blehness. Having a dead woman, but the police never contact her work, and so apparently she goes to work without problem. But heck, they really just assumed it was the lady anyway, so why bother double checking? The DoomBox was just dumb for me. Plus I always hate when someone gives up information to the Evil Doer so that the torturing will stop. If she really was solo, she would have killed Harry anyway.

Anyway, I'm not a big Sci-Fi channel fan, I'll give it a few episodes to see if it catchs my interest enough for me to remember where the channel is.

 

[Mean Eyed Cat]

Actually, my reference about Bob had more to do with his personality. I'm okay with them giving him a ghostly image rather than the dust-mote Bob as depicted in the books. However, one of the reasons I like the books so much is because Bob is pretty sarcastic and funny. To me, the tv Bob came off too uptight and wooden. Maybe they'll develop his character a little more.

And I kinda liked the actor they got to play Harry [Paul Blackthorne]. So far, he seemed to take on a lot of the mannerisms that I imagined Harry would display.

 

[Wycen]

One question I have is, was the boy a Raven offspring, or just happened that the Ravens were hired to protect him? I somehow missed that.

 

[sniffles]

One question I have is, was the boy a Raven offspring, or just happened that the Ravens were hired to protect him? I somehow missed that.

I think the Ravens were just protecting him.

I don't mind Bob as a man rather than a talking skull, but I felt they used him too much as a source of exposition. I suppose that's a limitation of doing the premiere as a one-hour episode rather than a two-hour movie. But I missed the sarcastic repartee between Harry and Bob. Bob seemed too erudite and stuffy.

I know a visual medium like television can't exactly reproduce what's in a book, and Butcher's books are too cinematic for a tv budget. But I'm going to miss a lot of the flavorful touches from the books, like Harry's problems with technology.

And what the heck was up with giving Murphy a kid? Whose lame idea was that? Apparently the audience isn't supposed to be able to relate to an attractive single career woman who doesn't have any family attachments. :\

 

[Vocenoctum]

One question I have is, was the boy a Raven offspring, or just happened that the Ravens were hired to protect him? I somehow missed that.

I'm pretty sure just hired. I was waiting for some revelation that it was a Raven kid and it never came, so I assume the opposite. Who hired them and Why were not revealed, but it seems he might be a recurring or something. I'm also not liking the idea that the White Council is something Harry would have reason to hide a kid from, but it wasn't really executed well enouigh to draw conclusions from.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Actually, my reference about Bob had more to do with his personality. I'm okay with them giving him a ghostly image rather than the dust-mote Bob as depicted in the books. However, one of the reasons I like the books so much is because Bob is pretty sarcastic and funny. To me, the tv Bob came off too uptight and wooden. Maybe they'll develop his character a little more.

Right, TV Bob was yet another stuffy british know-it-all with a mean streak. Book Bob was a knowledge spirit, ammoral and sophmoric. Heck, there really wasn't even anything ghostly about Bob. I'd have prefered if they'd simply had Mister there and when needed Bob zipped from teh skull into Mister and the cat talked.

And I kinda liked the actor they got to play Harry [Paul Blackthorne]. So far, he seemed to take on a lot of the mannerisms that I imagined Harry would display.[/QUOTE]