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DriveThruRPG.com to release 3.5 edition Dungeons & Dragons titles in eBook format

JustaPlayer

First Post
Aus_Snow said:
Well... except if it costs WotC any substantial amount of money just to have their PDFs hosted there. I think that might be so. Therefore, there's still a possibility - as far as I'm aware - that they could lose money this way.
Does it cost to host them there, or does DT just take a cut of each PDF sold?
 

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sckeener

First Post
Maggan said:
Somehow I figure that WotC wouldn't do this if the trial run they did wasn't sucessful enough to support this strategy.

Unless someone else has any numbers to back it up, I'm taking this move as an indication that the initial trial release of WotC D&D books through Drivethru was successful. Even with DRM and the price level.

Otherwise I fail to see why WotC would do it again without changing the parameters.

Who is to say they won't have a sale in a month or two (probably 6 months)? Right now it is new and no reason to change the price unless people are not buying. I bet we'll see the price drop in 10% increments until they hit the sweet spot of good return on pdfs without affecting their hard copy sales.
 

JustaPlayer

First Post
sckeener said:
Who is to say they won't have a sale in a month or two (probably 6 months)? Right now it is new and no reason to change the price unless people are not buying. I bet we'll see the price drop in 10% increments until they hit the sweet spot of good return on pdfs without affecting their hard copy sales.
I don't know. The original 7 are still at full price.
 


Voadam

Legend
It's too bad, I buy pdfs every month and I would like to buy these if they were not DRM and were at a more competitive price point.

Oh well, plenty for my pdf buying dollar to keep me going on stuff I do want for years at my monthly rpg budget.
 

jaerdaph

#BlackLivesMatter
I encourage all traditional print publishers moving into the PDF market to take a look at Green Ronin's PDF pricing vs. that of Green Ronin's print product pricing as a guideline.
 


DonTadow

First Post
Eh, DRM isn't bad if you have a full copy of adobe acrobat. I'm glad they are moving in the right direction. I do hate that they havn't realized that people aren't going to buy something in soft cover when they could buy it in hard cover for the same price. My idea would be the green ronin system with a twist. Perhaps provide some kind of proof of purchase of the hardcover book and you get a discount off the electronic book. That would be a way of detering file sharing, far more effective than DRM and sill ysecurity measures. Even gaming companies are moving away from trying to "lock up" material opting to instead listen to what their customers want.
 

JustaPlayer

First Post
There's no question in my eyes that they will make sales. At least one of their previoously released DRM products at full price was in the top 20 on DT for a while. If they were user friendly with a good price point even at less margin they would blow the PDF market away. Until then, Monte will pretty much reign as king when his releases come out.
 

Nellisir

Adventurer
The price is less offputting to me than DRM. I'd consider buying a pdf version of the Spell Compendium at full (print) price just for the cut-n-paste ability, but not with DRM. So, no sale.
 

TheAuldGrump

First Post
Let us do the math now...
Stupidly bad pricing + DRM = NO SALE

Yep, the equation works out. :p

The Auld Grump, who refused to buy from DTRPG while they were selling only DRM protected PDFs... I am glad that they at least learned from their mistakes.
 


tylerthehobo

Explorer
JustaPlayer said:
Does it cost to host them there, or does DT just take a cut of each PDF sold?

I'm pretty sure that DT just gets a percentage, but the arrangement varies based on volume. You can bet your bottom dollar that DT would do anything to house these rather than lose out to rpgnow or somebody, though.
 

dren

First Post
jaerdaph said:
I encourage all traditional print publishers moving into the PDF market to take a look at Green Ronin's PDF pricing vs. that of Green Ronin's print product pricing as a guideline.

I agree wholeheartedly.
 

Vigilance

Explorer
I still think it's good that WOTC has the PDFs there. For those that don't have a FLGS and for books that are out of print, it's a good option.

Chuck
 

Yair

Community Supporter
Vigilance said:
I still think it's good that WOTC has the PDFs there. For those that don't have a FLGS and for books that are out of print, it's a good option.
I don't have a FLGS. Still not good for me, and I'm living pretty far from anywhere.

But yeah, this is better than nothing. A small step in the right direction. Someday, we'll see no DRM reasonably-priced pdfs as a result of this. I hope.

Yair
 

Kunimatyu

First Post
Maybe this is just a way for Wizards to set the stage for a service where you buy the "real" book, then pay a nominal fee to get the PDF as well.
 

grot

First Post
SO, not that I'm advocating piracy, but WoTC has to know that all of these books are widely available, most OCRd, to any geek with the will to find them. That's what they are really competing against. What they should realize is what apple and a few folks in the music industry have realized: If you make it easy and cheap, consumers will in fact pay for the things they need. The only real reason I ever want eCopies is usually for modules, so I can avoid retyping piles of stuff into online games. I always already own the physical module. There's zero reason I am not going to buy the eCopy when i can just scan and OCR what I need myself, or get it from a friend who already has an OCR'd version.
 

Cyberhawk

Community Supporter
This would be a great idea for those books I was on the fence over (such as Heroes of Horror). A pdf version at a small discount really would have sold me.

Alas the prices are still very high and they're DRM pdfs, so I won't be purchasing any of them.

Oh well...
 

Man-thing

First Post
I have to admit that the DRM is typically a non-sale for me. However the price is making me take them into some consideration.

I prefer my game books in PDF format and while they are at full american cover price they are technical on sale as Canadian as my credit uses a better exchange rate.

At book stores and my FLGS, WOTC books are sold at RSRP and in Canada that is a 30% exchange rate.

Complete Psionic was $29.95 US but sold at the MSRP for Canada which was $42.00.
Even though our dollar is hovering at .90 US. It should have been about $35.
At DTRPG, I will save $7 and pay no taxes.
 

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