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Something interesting, as I was doing some research.....
A whois on the domain, drivethrurpg.com, yields the following:
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Registrant:
DriveThruRPG.com
ATTN: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447
Domain Name: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
Administrative Contact:
McDonough, Chris av8244jt4t8@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 24-Feb-2007.
Record created on 24-Feb-2004.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 09:55:11 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
Z1.NS.NYC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.66.55
Z1.NS.SJC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.34.55
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In other words, no direct contact info, if, in the event, one might want to contact the officers of this company DIRECTLY.
So, we do this: a whois on Swordsorcery.com, just for kicks.....
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Registrant:
White Wolf, Inc. (SWORDSORCERY-DOM)
1554 Litton Dr.
Stone Mountain, GA 30083
US
Domain Name: SWORDSORCERY.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
McDonough, Chris (CM979) chriskid@AOL.COM
White Wolf, Inc.
780 PARK NORTH BLVD STE 100
CLARKSTON, GA 30021-1900
US
404 282-1819 x218
Record expires on 17-Aug-2006.
Record created on 17-Aug-2000.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 09:56:52 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
Z1.NS.NYC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.66.55
Z1.NS.SJC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.34.55
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Hmm, well, I'll ping both, and see what comes up:
PING swordsorcery.com (206.65.59.3): 56 data bytes
ICMP must be blocked, as I got no ping response. Good job, S&S net admin
PING drivethrurpg.com (206.65.59.208): 56 data bytes
Same: NO ICMP response. Same class C as S&S.
PING white-wolf.com (206.65.59.5): 56 data bytes
Again, no ICMP response.
Note, all 3 are on the same subnet.
Ok, well, as a comparison, I did this:
whois rpgnow.com:
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Registrant:
Development Corp., Minion (RPGNOW5-DOM)
s 74 w 17065 janesville r
#165
muskego, WI 53150
US
Domain Name: RPGNOW.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Development Corp., Minion (36316929P) contact@rpgnow.com
s 74 w 17065 janesville r
#165
muskego, WI 53150
US
2626798132
Record expires on 03-May-2008.
Record created on 03-May-2000.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 10:01:45 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.132
NS2.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.162
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This give me a corporation name. I see they're in Wisconsin, so, I go to:
http://www.wdfi.org/corporations/crispix/default.asp
I do a search for Minion Development: I get .....:
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MINION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
ID: M041607
Effective Date: 09/30/1992
Record Type: Domestic Business
Status: Restored to Good Standing
Status Date: 08/20/2002
Annual Report Locator #: Year 2003, Reel 111, Image 1111
Period Of Existence: PER
Registered Agent Office
Registered Agent: JAMES MATHE
Registered Office Address:
W196S8470 PLUM CREEK BLVD
MUSKEGO, WI 53150
Principal Office Address
Attention:
Address:
W196S8470 PLUM CREEK BLVD
MUSKEGO, WI 53150
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I GOT a name, and an address. Someone to talk to, or yell at. I do NOT have that availability with DTRPG. I get to mail issues to a 3rd party. No corporate entity in Georgia, with the name Drivethrurpg.com, that I was able to find.
Heres the Ga. Dept of Corp. link, for those who ay want to try:
http://www.sos.state.ga.us/corporations/corpsearch.htm
I MUST add that White Wolf came up fine.
So, my main concern, is, IF something goes awry, with an order, payment/debit through my PP acount, WHO do I get to discuss this with on an immediate basis. I see Mr. Wieck, who has professed to be working with DTRPG, so, am I to assume that he is the contact person? I cant find out anything more on the company.
I have yet to buy a single PDF. I'm a hard copy type of guy.
BUT, if I WAS to buy a PDF, I'd want to know about the vendor. At RPGNow, I can easily find out who's running the show. If RPGNow should for some reason, make me feel scammed, or ripped off (very unlikely, as James is good people, with an excellent track record), I have recourse, even to his home state's dept. of corporations, and their corporation compliance area.
Why, then, is DTRPG's corporate backbone so hidden?
Again, I could care less. I'm not a PDF guy. Just thought I'd share this research with the rest of you.
A whois on the domain, drivethrurpg.com, yields the following:
---------
Registrant:
DriveThruRPG.com
ATTN: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447
Domain Name: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
Administrative Contact:
McDonough, Chris av8244jt4t8@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com
ATTN: DRIVETHRURPG.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA 20172-0447
570-708-8780
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, LLC. (HOST-ORG) customerservice@networksolutions.com
13200 Woodland Park Drive
Herndon, VA 20171-3025
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 571-434-4620
Record expires on 24-Feb-2007.
Record created on 24-Feb-2004.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 09:55:11 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
Z1.NS.NYC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.66.55
Z1.NS.SJC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.34.55
-------
In other words, no direct contact info, if, in the event, one might want to contact the officers of this company DIRECTLY.
So, we do this: a whois on Swordsorcery.com, just for kicks.....
-------
Registrant:
White Wolf, Inc. (SWORDSORCERY-DOM)
1554 Litton Dr.
Stone Mountain, GA 30083
US
Domain Name: SWORDSORCERY.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
McDonough, Chris (CM979) chriskid@AOL.COM
White Wolf, Inc.
780 PARK NORTH BLVD STE 100
CLARKSTON, GA 30021-1900
US
404 282-1819 x218
Record expires on 17-Aug-2006.
Record created on 17-Aug-2000.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 09:56:52 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
Z1.NS.NYC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.66.55
Z1.NS.SJC1.GLOBIX.NET 209.10.34.55
------
Hmm, well, I'll ping both, and see what comes up:
PING swordsorcery.com (206.65.59.3): 56 data bytes
ICMP must be blocked, as I got no ping response. Good job, S&S net admin
PING drivethrurpg.com (206.65.59.208): 56 data bytes
Same: NO ICMP response. Same class C as S&S.
PING white-wolf.com (206.65.59.5): 56 data bytes
Again, no ICMP response.
Note, all 3 are on the same subnet.
Ok, well, as a comparison, I did this:
whois rpgnow.com:
-------
Registrant:
Development Corp., Minion (RPGNOW5-DOM)
s 74 w 17065 janesville r
#165
muskego, WI 53150
US
Domain Name: RPGNOW.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Development Corp., Minion (36316929P) contact@rpgnow.com
s 74 w 17065 janesville r
#165
muskego, WI 53150
US
2626798132
Record expires on 03-May-2008.
Record created on 03-May-2000.
Database last updated on 16-Jun-2004 10:01:45 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.132
NS2.RACKSHACK.NET 207.218.223.162
-------
This give me a corporation name. I see they're in Wisconsin, so, I go to:
http://www.wdfi.org/corporations/crispix/default.asp
I do a search for Minion Development: I get .....:
-------
MINION DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
ID: M041607
Effective Date: 09/30/1992
Record Type: Domestic Business
Status: Restored to Good Standing
Status Date: 08/20/2002
Annual Report Locator #: Year 2003, Reel 111, Image 1111
Period Of Existence: PER
Registered Agent Office
Registered Agent: JAMES MATHE
Registered Office Address:
W196S8470 PLUM CREEK BLVD
MUSKEGO, WI 53150
Principal Office Address
Attention:
Address:
W196S8470 PLUM CREEK BLVD
MUSKEGO, WI 53150
-------
I GOT a name, and an address. Someone to talk to, or yell at. I do NOT have that availability with DTRPG. I get to mail issues to a 3rd party. No corporate entity in Georgia, with the name Drivethrurpg.com, that I was able to find.
Heres the Ga. Dept of Corp. link, for those who ay want to try:
http://www.sos.state.ga.us/corporations/corpsearch.htm
I MUST add that White Wolf came up fine.
So, my main concern, is, IF something goes awry, with an order, payment/debit through my PP acount, WHO do I get to discuss this with on an immediate basis. I see Mr. Wieck, who has professed to be working with DTRPG, so, am I to assume that he is the contact person? I cant find out anything more on the company.
I have yet to buy a single PDF. I'm a hard copy type of guy.
BUT, if I WAS to buy a PDF, I'd want to know about the vendor. At RPGNow, I can easily find out who's running the show. If RPGNow should for some reason, make me feel scammed, or ripped off (very unlikely, as James is good people, with an excellent track record), I have recourse, even to his home state's dept. of corporations, and their corporation compliance area.
Why, then, is DTRPG's corporate backbone so hidden?
Again, I could care less. I'm not a PDF guy. Just thought I'd share this research with the rest of you.
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