Ducking under cover?

[Infiniti2000]

Why 30 ft? If i stand 60 ft away half of the target is still blocked by the wall, and still provides cover.

The "creatures" refers to the target, not the attacker. If you are 60ft away or 10,000ft away and attacking a creature within 30ft of the low wall (separating), then cover applies.

Also this seems to suggest that targets get a +4 bonus against ranged touch spells, but do not need to roll percentile dice for determining whether the spell hits the target or the cover?

Why would % dice need to be rolled, regardless? If you use the cover variant then if the spellcaster misses by 4 or less, then he hits the cover. What do % dice have to do with it?

 

[Question]

So if the target is 30 ft away from the wall, and the attacker is standing directly behind the other side of the wall, the target still gets the cover bonus?

Well the % dice is how you measure hit/miss with concealmeant. Must have gotten confused. What is this cover variant?

 

[Infiniti2000]

So if the target is 30 ft away from the wall, and the attacker is standing directly behind the other side of the wall, the target still gets the cover bonus?

No: "The attacker can ignore the cover if he’s closer to the obstacle than his target." I suppose he doesn't have to ignore the cover, but he probably will.

Well the % dice is how you measure hit/miss with concealmeant. Must have gotten confused. What is this cover variant?

When talking about cover, it's just +4 cover bonus to AC. The cover variant is in the DMG. If the attacker misses by 4 or less then the cover itself may be hit. If the cover's AC (e.g. a person) is too high to be hit by the actually attack roll, then the cover is missed too. If the cover's AC without Dex/Dodge bonuses would be hit, however, then the cover does not actually provided cover and the original target is hit instead. All this latter part is irrelevant for a wall.

 

[Question]

Ah i see so its just a simple +4.

 

[werk]

Ah i see so its just a simple +4.

Or more, see varying degrees of cover, above. (you got me on ignore or something? if yes, say nothing )

 

[Storyteller01]

I know about going prone, but what about simply bending down/crouching?

Don't think it's specifically written, but it shouldn't be a problem as a free action. It still lowers your speed unless you know how to walk in that manner.

 

[Infiniti2000]

(you got me on ignore or something? if yes, say nothing )

I'm the only one who doesn't. We all got together and figured that at least one of us should keep track of what you write on the odd chance it's something important. Lucky me.