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Dune Official Trailer

I'm cautiously excited for it. I didn't like Blade Runner 2049, but a lot of that was because I didn't think it a sequel was needed 35 years later. Okay, that and Jared Leto.

The cast really is fantastic. The first movie had a great cast, but never really spent enough time on the characters other than Paul Atreides for it to matter. Don't get me wrong, I love that movie, flaws and all.

I think Jared Leto is treading Johnny Depp level of annoying, I cant put my finger on it but he just does.

Having "read" Dune, (I'll get to that in a minute), I think its a hard book to translate to a movie in my opinion. Too long for a single movie but not long enough for two.
 

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Ryujin

Adventurer
I think Jared Leto is treading Johnny Depp level of annoying, I cant put my finger on it but he just does.

Having "read" Dune, (I'll get to that in a minute), I think its a hard book to translate to a movie in my opinion. Too long for a single movie but not long enough for two.

I agree; it's a tough one. Likely better as a miniseries, like the last time it was made. More room for exposition and development, without going nuts.
 

Tyler Do'Urden

Soap Maker
Is Jason Momoa playing Patrick Stewart's character?

No, he's playing Duncan Idaho, who was played by Richard Jordan in the Lynch movie. Stewart was Gurney Hallack, who is being played by Josh Brolin (we see him briefly in the knife training duel in the trailer; didn't catch where else). Sting's character, Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen, has not been cast for this adaptation because he doesn't appear until the parts of the book that aren't being covered in this adaptation, though we see in the trailer his older brother, the "Beast" Rabban - played by Dave Bautista.
 

Tyler Do'Urden

Soap Maker
Having "read" Dune, (I'll get to that in a minute), I think its a hard book to translate to a movie in my opinion. Too long for a single movie but not long enough for two.

It's about the right length for a five and a half to six hour adaptation, which is probably what this will be when complete.
 

Part of it is, I think, is all the off-screen behavior, something that he carries over when he's in a role, like Depp. I am still mad about Leto being cast as Morbius, one of my favorite superheroes.

Dune is not the easiest work to tackle, to be sure. Tons of layers and undercurrents.

I think Jared Leto is treading Johnny Depp level of annoying, I cant put my finger on it but he just does.

Having "read" Dune, (I'll get to that in a minute), I think its a hard book to translate to a movie in my opinion. Too long for a single movie but not long enough for two.
 

Here's my story on "reading" Dune...

My first introduction to Dune was in 1983 when I bought Iron Maiden's "Piece of Mind". "To Tame a Land" was written about the book, and was originally titled "Dune" but Frank Herbert wouldn't give them the rights. I'm paraphrasing but I think his response to the request was simply "I don't like Heavy Metal".

In my freshman year of high school, in English class we were told at the beginning of the year we were going to have to do a book report. Get ready, pick a book, and read it as it was due in January and we had to submit the book for approval by November. I walk into class in November...late, and immediately my teacher asks me what book I was doing my report on. I completely forgot, or just didn't care and told her I hadn't figured it out yet. In response she points to an old spinner rack in the corner of the room with books on it and said, "PICK ONE". So I picked Dune.

I read up until the Harkonnens attacked the Atreides' on Arrakis, and wrote a half hearted report on the book. Day comes when we get our reports back, and as she's giving them back, placing them face down on the desk she says "see me after class" I figure Im busted. Class leaves and I'm left with my teacher and the first words out her mouth were, "I loved your book report" She starts asking me a bunch of questions, giving me her critique and asking my opinions, I'm sitting there dumbfounded mouth agape, thinking to myself, think quick, the jig is up she's gonna realize you didn't read the book. Anyhow, don't ask me how but I got an A,

Fast forward a few years I'm working graveyard at a gas station, to kill time I brought Dune along to read. No surprise I didn't finish it. Long story short I've started reading this book 5 or 6 times and have never finished it for one reason or another. Got within 30 pages once. Watched the movies, never finished them. I was going to pick it up again a few weeks ago but I'm convinced that if I do finish it I'll croak. Funny thing is I read all 6 Prelude to Dune books by Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson. Guess I'm just a slacker; not to mention every time I try reading it I could never get that song out of my head.
 


Zardnaar

Legend
My theory for a Dune adaption is use the book mostly for inspiration.

Downplay the weird stuff, focus on spice and Harkonnen vs Atriedes.

Noble families in space feuding, harsh planet with rare resources.

Basically downplay the weird Bene Gesserit type stuff.

I suspect a good chunk of the Dune fan base also comes from the video games over the books as well.
 
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Eyes of Nine

Everything's Fine
Herbert's writing is weird. By some definitions of good writing, it shouldn't work at all. So of course Dune was an international best-seller and is now on it's second big-budget film adaptation!
So true. It's a testament to how far good world-building can take a SciFi/Fantasy property.
May have to pick it up again for a quick read-through.
 



Tyler Do'Urden

Soap Maker
Interesting side-note about the type of trailers we see. People enjoyed that cover of an old song example so much that they had the artist do the whole song for download.

I'd guess that the trailer probably made the movie look a lot more action-ey than it will actually be. I'm expecting something a lot more like Blade Runner 2049 - long running time, lots of slow, visceral scenes cut with occasional brutal action. Though probably a lot more talking than BR2049. ;)
 

Mercurius

Legend
It looks pretty good but kind of...empty. Lynch's film, despite its flaws, was deeply atmospheric and weird, with a real mystical quality. Based on this trailer, this seems more vanilla. But we'll see.
 

My theory for a Dune adaption is use the book mostly for inspiration.
Downplay the weird stuff, focus on spice and Harkonnen vs Atriedes.
Noble families in space feuding, harsh planet with rare resources.
Basically downplay the weird Bene Gesserit type stuff.
I suspect a good chunk of the Dune fan base also comes from the video games over the books as well.

The weird and creepy Bene Gesserit stuff is what makes it so great. Dune is a universe where not just men are in power. Certain groups of women wield immense power of the universe, by use of the spice. The role of the Bene Gesserit ties directly into the spice, Dune, the reason for the war itself, and most of the major plot points in the story. Without them, you have no story. Dune is a story about a messiah and a jihad. You can't have either of these things without the religion behind it all, which is what the Bene Gesserit are.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
The weird and creepy Bene Gesserit stuff is what makes it so great. Dune is a universe where not just men are in power. Certain groups of women wield immense power of the universe, by use of the spice. The role of the Bene Gesserit ties directly into the spice, Dune, the reason for the war itself, and most of the major plot points in the story. Without them, you have no story. Dune is a story about a messiah and a jihad. You can't have either of these things without the religion behind it all, which is what the Bene Gesserit are.

I would still have them. Just would focus to much in the philosophy stuff.

Their stuff works and they use spice, hint at prophecy and stuff.
 



trappedslider

Adventurer
If no one says "The spice must flow" I will be very upset...
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reelo

Explorer
My wife absolutely hates it when trailers give you most of the movie's plot points. There've been a ton of reveals in trailers that should have never been put in them. Had Empire Strikes Back been made today, any bets if "No, I am your father" would've been in the trailer?
Reveals? What reveals?
When you read the book, lots of stuff is given away early on through Paul's future wife, Princess Irulan's chapter opening statements.
 

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