Dungeons & Dragons 2024 Player's Handbook Is Already Getting Errata

The 2024 Player's Handbook on D&D Beyond contains several updates to the new revised 5th edition ruleset. Early access users of D&D Beyond who have also obtained a physical copy of the 2024 Player's Handbook have noticed several minor differences between the digital and physical copy, assumably due to soon-to-be-released errata. Notably, the following changes have been spotted:

• Giant Insect spell contains a clarification on its HP (the physical edition states that the summoned insect has an HP of 30+10 for each level in the spell slot used to cast the spell; the digital version states 30+10 for every level above 4th level),
• Shields now require the Utilize action to don or doff
• Goliath's Powerful Build now specifies that it grants Advantage on ability checks to end the Grappled Condition instead of saving throws.
• True Polymorph's spell description no longer states that the spell effects end if its target's temporary hit points run out.
• The Telekinetic feat now specifies that it grants an increased range to the use of Mage Hand instead stating that you can cast Mage Hand at a further distance away.

Notably, Wizards of the Coast has not released an official errata document for the Player's Handbook, although they may be holding out until the book's full release on September 17th.

 

[Mistwell]

That's still technically what it says. I believe @Mistwell was extrapolating / inferring rather than quoting.

I am quoting. I think people were reading each paragraph of the rule separately in isolation. Once you see it all together, it's pretty obvious (at least to my read of it) that the third paragraph is referencing the language in the second paragraph intentionally. They establish the rule for "find you" first, then they mention what happens if someone "finds you."

 

[Charlaquin]

Right, that's the part that when you see it in print on a page, you realize that's not what they're saying.

Second paragraph says, "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (Perception) check."

Third paragraph says, "The condition ends on you immediately after...an enemy finds you..."

It's clear, to me at least when I see it on a page together, that they're referring back to the rule they just specified. Which is the way you know if an enemy finds you is for them to beat the DC you set with their Perception check.

That’s been clear to me all along, and is exactly the problem. Because a perception check (passive or otherwise) that beats a DC equal to your Stealth check result is required to find you, a high enough Stealth check does in fact make it possible to dance naked in front of an enemy’s face without being found, as long as you do so quietly.

 

[pukunui]

Right, that's the part that when you see it in print on a page, you realize that's not what they're saying.

Second paragraph says, "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (Perception) check."

Third paragraph says, "The condition ends on you immediately after...an enemy finds you..."

It's clear, to me at least when I see it on a page together, that they're referring back to the rule they just specified. Which is the way you know if an enemy finds you is for them to beat the DC you set with their Perception check.

I think what people are getting hung up on is that it's still specifying that a viewer has to find you. There's no way for them to automatically see you if they, say, enter your line of sight.

 

[Mistwell]

That’s been clear to me all along, and is exactly the problem. Because a perception check (passive or otherwise) that beats a DC equal to your Stealth check result is required to find you, a high enough Stealth check does in fact make it possible to dance naked in front of an enemy’s face without being found, as long as you do so quietly.

Yes I know. I think I was the first to make that very reference about dancing around in front of a guard here. You commented on it at the time

 

[mellored]

make it possible to dance naked in front of an enemy’s face without being found, as long as you do so quietly.

Can you be naked if you're invisible?
Or is invisibly a kind of cloths that prevents them from seeing your skin?

 

[pukunui]

I am quoting.

I was referring to the bit where you said:

... or a creature beats your DC with a passive or active Perception check to find you.

That is not what the book says. That is you extrapolating / inferring from the text. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that some other posters here seem to think that's a direct quote and is thus a rule change when it's not.

 

[Mistwell]

I think what people are getting hung up on is that it's still specifying that a viewer has to find you. There's no way for them to automatically see you if they, say, enter your line of sight.

Yes. I know.

I am not sure why people think my saying the rule as written is clear, is being conflated with my agreeing with the rule or saying it's logical.

Yeah, I am not a fan of the rule. I just think what I am saying IS the rule in the book.

 

[Mistwell]

I was referring to the bit where you said:



That is not what the book says. That is you extrapolating / inferring from the text. I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that some other posters here seem to think that's a direct quote and is thus a rule change when it's not.

That is what the book says. I'll quote it again. "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (Perception) check." It defines how you figure out if a creature can "find you." It's not some rule in isolation elsewhere in the book, this is the very paragraph right before the book says that your condition ends if a creature "finds you."

 

[pukunui]

That is what the book says. I'll quote it again. "Make note of your check’s total, which is the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom (Perception) check." It defines how you figure out if a creature can "find you." It's not some rule in isolation elsewhere in the book, this is the very paragraph right before the book says that your condition ends if a creature "finds you."

You're still not getting it, and I just can't even. I give up. I'm supposed to be working right now anyway ...

 

[Charlaquin]

You're still not getting it, and I just can't even. I give up. I'm supposed to be working right now anyway ...

I mean. @Mistwell is absolutely correct. The rule is perfectly clear, most of the alternative interpretations were a result of not seeing the rules all together in context. Now we have that context, and it’s pretty inarguable that the critics of the rule were correct in their interpretation of it. It does, in fact, enable you to remain unseen outside of cover or obscuration with a high enough Stealth check.