Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

It appears a Dark Sun campaign setting book is coming out in 2026.
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Wizards of the Coast has released four new D&D subclasses for playtesting, all of which have heavy thematic ties to the post-apocalyptic Dark Sun setting. The four subclasses, released as "Apocalyptic Subclasses," include the Circle of Preservation Druid, the Gladiator Fighter, the Defiled Sorcerer, and the Sorcerer-King Patron Warlock. Although not stated outright, the Gladiator and Sorcerer-King Patron are explicit nods to the Dark Sun setting, set in a ruined world ruled by Sorcerer-Kings where gladiatorial fights were common.

The Circle of Preservation Druid creates areas of preserved land that grants buffs to those who stand upon it. The Gladiator adds secondary Weapon Mastery properties to their attacks, with bonus abilities. Notably, the Gladiator uses Charisma as its secondary stat. The Defiled Sorcerer can expend its hit dice to amp up damage to its attacks and can also steal the life of its targets to deal additional damage. The Sorcerer-King Patron gains a number of abilities tying into tyranny and oppression, with the ability to cast Command as a Bonus Action without expending a spell slot, causing targets to gain the Frightened Condition, and forcing those who attack them to re-roll successful attacks.

The survey for the subclasses goes live on August 28th.

 

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Christian Hoffer

Christian Hoffer

That's the exact opposite of the point I was making. I was literally saying you shouldn't let the lesser evil slide!
And my point is that when you do do that thing, you kinda are letting it slide. You are creating an "out", a justification, no matter how tortured.

That's pretty much the specific reason why Stalin is a "complex" figure, and Hitler is not. The former helped fight a "worse" person, and so we cannot call him truly evil...even if he did as much evil as the person he helped fight. Or, as Wikipedia puts it, "One of the 20th century's most significant figures, Stalin has a deeply contested legacy."

A better option? I wasn't arguing that leaving them alive should be an option. Ideally you'd have most or all of the SKs dead before Borys and Rajaat were even a factor.
Well, you had said....
But that doesn't make them the good guys. Stalin helped out with Hitler but that doesn't mean he wasn't also a monster.
...which, to me, means we expect to have defeated the big monster, Borys and/or Rajaat, before defeating the small ones, the Sorcerer-Kings. Since that's what happened with your historical analogy, except the smaller monster wasn't defeated, he died in his bedroom.

Now, of course, I know that isn't what you meant. But I would not have gotten what you meant from what you said.
 

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And my point is that when you do do that thing, you kinda are letting it slide. You are creating an "out", a justification, no matter how tortured.

That's pretty much the specific reason why Stalin is a "complex" figure, and Hitler is not. The former helped fight a "worse" person, and so we cannot call him truly evil...even if he did as much evil as the person he helped fight. Or, as Wikipedia puts it, "One of the 20th century's most significant figures, Stalin has a deeply contested legacy."


Well, you had said....

...which, to me, means we expect to have defeated the big monster, Borys and/or Rajaat, before defeating the small ones, the Sorcerer-Kings. Since that's what happened with your historical analogy, except the smaller monster wasn't defeated, he died in his bedroom.

Not a bad example. We allied the lesser evil.

Dark Sun evil won. There was sone nuanced in later products. 1 SK repented, 1 got a redemption arc.
 

Not a bad example. We allied the lesser evil.
Right, but in signposting it as a "lesser evil", especially in fiction, it all too easily becomes whataboutism, just in a whitewashing kind of way. "Well whatabout how the Sorcerer Kings helped us kill the Dragon? Don't they deserve credit for that?" kind of deal.
 

Right, but in signposting it as a "lesser evil", especially in fiction, it all too easily becomes whataboutism, just in a whitewashing kind of way. "Well whatabout how the Sorcerer Kings helped us kill the Dragon? Don't they deserve credit for that?" kind of deal.

SKs didn't kill the Dragon. They were working with him.

One of the heroes of Tyr did. SKs maybe indirectly.

Haven't read the novels for about a decade though.
 

SKs didn't kill the Dragon. They were working with him.

One of the heroes of Tyr did. SKs maybe indirectly.

Haven't read the novels for about a decade though.
I'm not talking about the novels here. I'm talking about a presumably-hypothetical context in which a "canon" adventure presents the heroes as, eventually, accepting something like "the enemy of my enemy is my ally", like how the Allies worked with the Soviets despite both sides hating each others' guts, because they all hated Nazi Germany more.
 

I'm not talking about the novels here. I'm talking about a presumably-hypothetical context in which a "canon" adventure presents the heroes as, eventually, accepting something like "the enemy of my enemy is my ally", like how the Allies worked with the Soviets despite both sides hating each others' guts, because they all hated Nazi Germany more.

Kinda doesn't work because the Dragon is key to locking Rajaat away.

SKs colluded with him. Ones that didn't the others killed them eg Dregoth, Sielba, Kalidnay.

Main reason I don't like the metaplot isn't NPCs do all the interesting stuff ( kill Kalak, The Dragon, other SKs).

They actually wrote adventures where PCs basically carry the golf clubs.
 

SKs colluded with him. Ones that didn't the others killed them eg Dregoth, Sielba, Kalidnay.
Wyan and Sasha were Rajaat's collaborators among the sorcerer-kings. They're still (kinda) alive in a vastly depowered form up until the fall of Kalak, and canonically right up until the return of Rajaat when someone finally gets around to squishing them.

Dregoth and Sielba both took part in the revolt. Sielba was killed later by Hamanu after various wars over old rivalries and hatreds, not really anything to do with Rajaat. Dregoth was killed by an alliance of sorcerer-kings when he tried to become a dragon - Hamanu, Lalali-Puy, Nibenay and I think others. They weren't going to go through THAT again. Kalid-Ma is nominally still alive but vanished into Ravenloft, in one of TSRs dumber lore decisions, where he basically did nothing and was of no use to anyone, even Ravenloft players.

Depending on what sources you consider canonical, there was another sorcerer-king called Pennarin, who took part in the revolt against Rajaat and was killed by him.
 


Wyan and Sasha were Rajaat's collaborators among the sorcerer-kings. They're still (kinda) alive in a vastly depowered form up until the fall of Kalak, and canonically right up until the return of Rajaat when someone finally gets around to squishing them.

Dregoth and Sielba both took part in the revolt. Sielba was killed later by Hamanu after various wars over old rivalries and hatreds, not really anything to do with Rajaat. Dregoth was killed by an alliance of sorcerer-kings when he tried to become a dragon - Hamanu, Lalali-Puy, Nibenay and I think others. They weren't going to go through THAT again. Kalid-Ma is nominally still alive but vanished into Ravenloft, in one of TSRs dumber lore decisions, where he basically did nothing and was of no use to anyone, even Ravenloft players.

Depending on what sources you consider canonical, there was another sorcerer-king called Pennarin, who took part in the revolt against Rajaat and was killed by him.

Yeah rhe other SKs won't tolerate another Dragon.

They'll kill you. Sielba more inter SK strife.
 

Kinda doesn't work because the Dragon is key to locking Rajaat away.

SKs colluded with him. Ones that didn't the others killed them eg Dregoth, Sielba, Kalidnay.

Main reason I don't like the metaplot isn't NPCs do all the interesting stuff ( kill Kalak, The Dragon, other SKs).

They actually wrote adventures where PCs basically carry the golf clubs.
I mean, I can at least appreciate an adventure that actually tells players what they're going to experience if they don't play a powerful spellcaster.
 

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