Dungeon's new pirates of the caribbean series

[Calico_Jack73]

We've been considering adding more general fantasy-nautical content to Buccaneers & Bokor, rather than the exclusively 17th-18th century Caribbean stuff for Skull & Bones that we've focused on for the first 6 issues.

With the launch of the Savage Tide Adventure Path, this seems to make even more sense.

Would that be something of interest to folks?

Ummmm.... HELL YEAH!!!!

Thanks again to the Adamant folks for a wonderful product!

 

[Erithtotl]

Better pirates than ninjas.

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Better pirates than ninjas.

But we all know that both pirates and ninjas together are better than either alone.

The Auld Grump, actually, I don't even like ninjas...

 

[Hussar]

Only if it could catch it somehow! A longship would be at least twice as fast as a sloop.

Sorry, but, not even close. A sloop's cruising speed would outpace the fastest of viking longships.

As far as ballista goes, well, there's also the bit about hardness. IIRC, a cog's hull has a hardness of 10. Now, do you think that a hull designed to withstand cannon shot would be weaker or stronger than a ship designed almost a THOUSAND years previously? You could shoot ballista at a sloop all day long and barely scratch the paint.

Even the galleons in Buccaneers and Bokor, IIRC, have hardnesses of 15. And we're two or three centuries beyond that.

This is my point.

It's not that the picture is a bad pic. It's not. It's a very good picture. Well done, looks great. But it is completely misplaced. This ship wouldn't even be seen in Buccaneers and Bokor - it's too modern.

This is a case where writers and artists need to do a minimum of historical research. It's not like there aren't decent looking ships in earlier periods. There are. Galleons look way cool even if they are a bit on the late side. Carracks are also very groovy looking and fit perfectly into the time period of DnD.

Dropping a sloop into the assumed tech period of DnD would have about the same effect as dropping the Nimitz into 1942. There would be nothing on the water that could come even close to catching it and nothing they could shoot at it would do more than rip sails. Never mind that the guns on a sloop would be rifled cannons with about four or five times the range of anything else.

All I'm asking for is for artists and designers to do 15 minutes of homework before publishing stuff. I don't think that's too far out of line.

 

[Nightfall]

See what I want is demonic ninja pirates that sail the seas of the Abyss and worship Demorgogon...

Only to have Orcus' armies pound the living (and unliving) snot out of them!

 

[A'koss]

All I'm asking for is for artists and designers to do 15 minutes of homework before publishing stuff. I don't think that's too far out of line.

You assume, of course, that more than 0.01% of D&D players know the difference between a sloop, a carrack and a galleon and those that do actually... care.

I've been known to be a huge stickler for historical accuracy in the past, but really, so few care about this stuff it's virtually irrelevant from a gaming perspective. D&D has always been all over the map as far as period gear goes.

 

[Nightfall]

Akoss,

So I can't have my demonic pirate ninjas that worship Demogorgon sailing the abyss?

 

[A'koss]

Well... as you should know by now, under the D&D Code of Class Conduct you can either have pirates or ninjas, pirates vs ninjas, irate ninjas or um, niny pirates, but never, ever pirate ninjas...

... but ninja pirates might be okay.

 

[Nightfall]

fine. Ninja pirates then that are demonic, have fish for faces and serve Demogorgon. All so Orcus can kick them around later on.

 

[A'koss]

You know, an interesting thought just occured to me about Orcus in the aftermath of the ST. With Demo out of the way there would be little to stop him from becoming the new (albeit somewhat moldy) head cheese of the Abyss...