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E-Tools: Anyone Sharing Custom Files?

Vpenman Said: Was it immoral? Not according to "JRRNeiklot".
That's utter crap. He never said any such thing. He merely pointed out, correctly, that the legal term for taking copyrighted material is Copyright Infringement. It's not, legally speaking, theft.

And for that matter, the scenario you describe with the paycheck is not theft either.

Your posts here are getting comical.
 

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DMFTodd said:
That's utter crap. He never said any such thing. He merely pointed out, correctly, that the legal term for taking copyrighted material is Copyright Infringement. It's not, legally speaking, theft.

And for that matter, the scenario you describe with the paycheck is not theft either.

Your posts here are getting comical.

Well, at least they have some redeaming value.

And, as long as we are being correct, I never claimed it was legally theft. Just that it was theft, and immoral, none-the-less.

You can take credit for another person's ideas or work, possibly even take their ideas or work, and not have it be legally theft. But it is theft, and wrong, none-the-less.

However, I did not intend to misrepresent anyone's posts. If I have misrepresented whoever is posting as JRRNEIKLOt, I apologize.

Victor
 

Vpenman said:
Just that it was theft, and immoral, none-the-less.Victor
Nobody said it was the right thing to do. The word "kazaa" gets mentioned and people jump on their moral high horse and start screaming "Theft!". You even went so far as to call someone immoral.

If I have misrepresented whoever is posting as JRRNEIKLOt
If?! You fabricated a scenario and called him immoral. If you're so concerned with morals as you portray, you'd offer an honest apology, not a half-cloaked one.

Now back to the original post: Is anyone sharing E:Tools custom data files? Apparently not. IMHO, it seems like a perfectly legal thing to do (as I explained above). I don't know why people aren't doing it.
 

DMFTodd said:
Nobody said it was the right thing to do. The word "kazaa" gets mentioned and people jump on their moral high horse and start screaming "Theft!". You even went so far as to call someone immoral.


If?! You fabricated a scenario and called him immoral. If you're so concerned with morals as you portray, you'd offer an honest apology, not a half-cloaked one.

Now back to the original post: Is anyone sharing E:Tools custom data files? Apparently not. IMHO, it seems like a perfectly legal thing to do (as I explained above). I don't know why people aren't doing it.

Really, who did I call immoral? I admit that anyone who committed the acts I describe would be committing immoral acts and I recall pointing that out.

The actual statement was: "Was it immoral? Not according to "JRRNeiklot". "

If you are as upset as you claim to be about people misrepresenting what someone else posts, an apology from would now be appropriate. Otherwise, the word "hypocrite" could be appropriately applied to a specific individual.

Victor
 


Vpenman said:
Of course what I actually said was "You have stolen a person's labor, ideas, and creativity."

Let's say you have a job. Pretty much each weekday you work at that job. You do that not because you would rather be working than doing anything else you could do. You do that because you need to work to earn an honest living.

Now let's say your employer is, well let's call him a "pirate" (so as not to offend anyone). This "pirate" had no intention of paying you for your work. Rather, he intends to enjoy the fruits of your labor without paying you for them.

Payday comes around, you get a paycheck, but it bounces. You try to collect from your "pirate" employer, but he is no where to be found.

Was this illegal? Certainly, as the "pirate" never intended to pay you, that is fraud and illegal.

Was it immoral? Not according to "JRRNeiklot". Apparently, since what was taken from you was not something a person can hold in his hands (the bank did return that bounced check to you), this isn't theft. It's not even wrong.

Victor


If you will read my posts, I never said it was't immoral, though morality varies by culture, and as such, cannot be legislated. At least our government has said such. I notice, you, however, must be much more wise than our founding fathers, so it's quite all right for you to do so.

I also never said it wasn't wrong. In fact, I said piracy was illegal and the perpretrator should be prosecuted for it.

And what is it with you and my nick on the boards? Everyone uses a nickname on message boards, yet you single me out to complain that I am "hiding." If you will kindly email me, I will provide you with my name, address, and a urine sample, if you like. My email is in my profile.
 

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