Eagle Claw Attack?

[SoulStorm]

I'm trying to figure out the limitations on sundering with an Eagle Claw Attack. What I want to know is what size weapon or shield can be sundered? Thanks for the help.

 

[hong]

Eagle Claw Attack is a useless feat. It lets you sunder items with an unarmed strike, but the PHB has been errata'd so that you can do that anyway (previously you could only sunder with a slashing weapon; now you can use bludgeoning as well, and an unarmed strike does bludgeoning damage).

 

[SoulStorm]

I need it as a prerequisite for Empty Hand Mastery.

In the description for Eagle Claw attack in Oriental Adventures it does state that normally only slashing and bludgeoning weapons can be used to sunder. I would presume the issue is that you can't sunder a weapon with an unarmed strike without the feat.

 

[Crothian]

Edited out, was think of disarm, not sunder

 

[SoulStorm]

Really? How do I respond when people start referring to the passage in the players handbook where it states that only weapons / shields up to 1 size category larger than the weapon wielded can be sundered?

Thanks for the reply,

 

[Kraedin]

An unarmed strike is two sizes smaller than the creature "weilding" it. For example, a human monk has Tiny fists, and therefore can sunder Small shields (i.e. buckler) and weapons.

 

[SoulStorm]

See, that's what I mean. That's what I'm expecting my group to say. However, in Sword and Fist they have that little variant rule about if you use both hands to disarm an opponent it counts as a weapon the same size as the attacker. It would seem to me the same rule should apply to sundering, however, I've yet to see an official source which supports that. It just seems to me that 2 feats (Sunder and Eagle Claw Attack) to be able to sunder small weapons and shields is a little rediculous. Is there any more information about this out there somewhere?