Eberron: Lord of Blades not that tough?

[Desdichado]

Hey - who invited the pedants?

There's a difference between being pedantic, and interpreting mild hyperbole at more or less face value. I still say there's a world of difference between the statements (and I'm paraphrasing), "the whole point of Eberron is that nobody is higher than 10^th level" and "Eberron doesn't have FR-like epic level NPCs in every major city"

 

[Patlin]

He could easily have a 'dumb-as-a-lump' Warforged Titan Barbarien 31/ Fighter 17/Frenzied Berserker 9/Reaping Mauler 4/ Juggernaut 11 with the new Spellresistance alloy 214 named 'Smasha' follow him like a puppy and pimpslap the players around while LoB stands to the side with arms crossed and makes sly remarks. If thats it, what makes your game fly.

The levels are a bit high for my taste, but what a beautiful concept! Perhaps just a Warforged Titan Barbarian 10...

 

[Zweischneid]

There's a difference between being pedantic, and interpreting mild hyperbole at more or less face value. I still say there's a world of difference between the statements (and I'm paraphrasing), "the whole point of Eberron is that nobody is higher than 10th level" and "Eberron doesn't have FR-like epic level NPCs in every major city"

Setting Shift

Conjuration (Teleportation)
Level: Elminister only
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: self
Target: Elminister or up to eight willing creatures joining hands from the following list: Drizzt, Khelben Blackstaff, Sememmon, Szass Tam or any Chosen of Mystra
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: none
Spell Resistance: none

You move yourself or some other creature to another D&D Setting or alternate Campaign concept. If several willing persons link hands in a circle, as many as eight can be affected by the plane shift at the same time. Precise accuracy as to a particular arrival location on the intended Setting is certainly possible. From your home in the Realms, you can reach any other Setting and appear right behind the closest low-level PC of your choice.

Note: Setting shift transports creatures instantaneously and then ends. But ya know, the Elminister will always find other means to travel back.

Focus: one eversmoking Pipe

 

[Emirikol]

So, I don't think anybody here can figure out the EL question that this thread is actually about: What's the EL for that single encounter?


jh

 

[Dr Simon]

Exactly. All these people who go on about how wonderful Eberron is because, unlike FR, it doesn't have hordes of high-level NPCs seem to forget:

1. FR started the same way... and now has hordes of high-level NPCs;

Hmm...

I had the original FR boxed set. I don't think you're right here. The El-man, Symbul etc. were already present. My memory is hazy about characters like Fzoul and Mourngrim, but my impression was of lots of high-level rulers.

No Drizz't at that time, though.

 

[Squire James]

He could easily have a 'dumb-as-a-lump' Warforged Titan Barbarien 31/ Fighter 17/Frenzied Berserker 9/Reaping Mauler 4/ Juggernaut 11 with the new Spellresistance alloy 214 named 'Smasha' follow him like a puppy and pimpslap the players around while LoB stands to the side with arms crossed and makes sly remarks. If thats it, what makes your game fly.

Um, you might want to remove the Frenzied Berserker levels, or the LoB goes down right after that thing kills the party... other than that, I suppose he could have a big gun that shoots these things at the party as bullets!

 

[Zweischneid]

Um, you might want to remove the Frenzied Berserker levels, or the LoB goes down right after that thing kills the party... other than that, I suppose he could have a big gun that shoots these things at the party as bullets!

Uh.. well, how about we replace the Frenzied Berserker with a few levels of Hulking Hurler? I am not quite set on the concept yet and my let the WoTC Min/Max board tune it up for me...

... but than again, I could just declare all PC dead! I am the DM after all, so stop whining. *maniacal evil laughter*

























Ok... I though it was obvious, but incase it was not: the Warforged Titan build I posted was supposed to be slightly exaggerated, i.e. an attempt of ironic humor on my part.
Pls do not stat him up or critizise the actual value of the build. Thanks!

 

[megamania]

Before this officially becomes an Elminister thread....

Eberron, like ANY world can be adjusted to fit your players tastes and speed. Baker has been said to prefer levels 5-8. Lord of Blades as being a level 12 character is a challenge this way based solely on CR.

NOW keep in mind what he is....

He is the only organized force within a wiped out area the size of a country. He is not all powerful, but he is the closest thing to it. If you mess with the Mournelands, you will need to deal with him.

Now for how much of a challenge he is...
He is set up to a thorn in one's side and an excellent Roleplaying possibility. He is selfrightious zealot that has a commanding presence and influence over warforged beings whom are lost at what to do. They are looking for a leader and a purpose. Enter their savior- The Lord of Blades.

Though he is already an influence in my game (using Forgotten Forge and Shadows of the Last War) he has not appeared nor even been mentioned. Once my players do know of his existance, there will be role playing possibilities. He is in effect a king. To get to him, you must enter his country (not easy being the Mournelands) and go through his minions whom are BELIEVERS of him. They do what what they do not for money but for spiritual belief. They will do anything for him.

In the same token, he is smart and cunning. He is a manipulator also. The way I am planning on using him is he truely feels his "people" are unjustly used and viewed by the common races BUT he wants power. He wants power over them, over humanoids and the common races.

He is as powerful as you want him because of INFLUENCE. He could be level 1 barbarian but if he commands these folks as he does, you will be 15+ level just to reach him.

I once read an artical that suggested he was the Dr. Doom (Marvel Comics) of Eberron. He is not super powerful in a one on one fight but he plans out everything, has tons of resources and tons of followers. Going through the feilds of the Mournelands, he has tons of weapons, including magical weapons of Mass Destruction. COUNTRIES will fear his possible motives and reasons for being.
Thus, if PCs want to remove him, they may have to deal with Breland or Karrnath. Epic level anyone? Not convinced yet? The Dragons may want him alive. Do you wish to fight an army of angry dragons (multiple types)?

Its how the game is played ...not the characters own level that creates the Challenge Rating in my own mind.

'nuff said.