Eldritch Theurge

[RigaMortus2]

The worst part about this combination is that, at the levels that it finally gets decent, Warlock stuff is looking rather weak compared to wizard and sorcerer. In the same book you have a Reserve Feat called Acidic Splatter. That should almost keep pace with the Eldritch Blast in terms of damage, is superior in range without a shape evocation and also ignores SR just like the best Warlock blast enhancements.

Why not just take the reserve feat? Once you are considering practiced caster feats to improve your caster level, it makes sense to just be direct.

A level 1 Wizard/Sorc can take Precocious Apprentice feat (Complete Arcane p. 182) and take Melf's Acid Arrow as their 2nd level spell. Then they can do Acidic Splatter all day long and deal 2d6 acid damage all day long. Not bad for a level 1 Character

 

[Darklone]

A level 1 Wizard/Sorc can take Precocious Apprentice feat (Complete Arcane p. 182) and take Melf's Acid Arrow as their 2nd level spell. Then they can do Acidic Splatter all day long and deal 2d6 acid damage all day long. Not bad for a level 1 Character

That complete arcane feat gives a level 1 char a level 2 spell?

 

[Falling Icicle]

The first sentence of the Practiced Spellcaster feat does say 'spells', but we always let it apply to EB blast damage. Rationale was that the EB's save can be boosted by Spell Penetration.

I think alot of feats don't technically benefit the Warlock class as much as they should since the Warlock class came into the game after those feats were published, and even many of the newer feats don't take Warlocks into account because they are a class appearing in a supplement rather than a core rule book. This is where DMs are encouraged to use their discretion. I think that Practiced Spellcaster should apply to EB damage. After all, a Wizard or other caster who takes that feat does more damage with his spells, why shouldn't a Warlock do more damage with his blast?

 

[saucercrab]

I think alot of feats don't technically benefit the Warlock class as much as they should since the Warlock class came into the game after those feats were published, and even many of the newer feats don't take Warlocks into account because they are a class appearing in a supplement rather than a core rule book. This is where DMs are encouraged to use their discretion. I think that Practiced Spellcaster should apply to EB damage. After all, a Wizard or other caster who takes that feat does more damage with his spells, why shouldn't a Warlock do more damage with his blast?

My group just HR'ed a Practiced Invoker feat, to go along with Practiced Spellcaster & Practiced Manifester; an older issue of Dragon even has one for soulknives (Practiced Mindblade, IIRC).

One of the easier things to HR, IMO.

 

[Falling Icicle]

My group just HR'ed a Practiced Invoker feat, to go along with Practiced Spellcaster & Practiced Manifester; an older issue of Dragon even has one for soulknives (Practiced Mindblade, IIRC).

One of the easier things to HR, IMO.

That's an even better idea.

 

[rgard]

That's an even better idea.

Agreed! Nicely done!

 

[saucercrab]

Um, thanks both.

 

[Dracomeander]

Yep and they are in the same book. A wizard with Acidic Splatter actually pulls ahead on damage from a Warlock at Level 13 assuming he uses a spell of his highest level for the reserve. By then his range is 65 feet.

Sorry for the threadjack, but I just had to chime in on this one.

You are reading the reserve feat wrong. The range for Acidic Splatter and most reserve feats that have a variable range is based on the level of the spell being used to fuel the reserve feat. Not the level of the caster using the reserve feat. Therefore a 7th level spell used to fuel the feat nets a range of 35 ft not 65 ft for a 13th level caster.

It looks like you've already resolved the character's flavor and went with the Eldritch Theurge. I think it's a great concept PrC and am working one up myself for a backup character for one of my games. It takes longer to reach full power but has loads more versatility than trying to do it all with reserve feats.

 

[RigaMortus2]

That complete arcane feat gives a level 1 char a level 2 spell?

Yes. The only drawback is that you have to make a caster level check vs DC 8 to cast it. Since you are not going to be casting it though, no problem . Once you get 2nd level spells, the feat basically becomes "Extra Slot" as it doesn't do much for you at that point.

 

[Darklone]

Yes. The only drawback is that you have to make a caster level check vs DC 8 to cast it. Since you are not going to be casting it though, no problem . Once you get 2nd level spells, the feat basically becomes "Extra Slot" as it doesn't do much for you at that point.

Well... doesn't sound too bad. Thanks, RM.