[ELH] Negative Levels & Epic Spell Slots

[Cloudgatherer]

So you're an epic spellcaster. While fighting your arch-enemy, he zaps you with an energy drain effect (lose 2d4 levels, do not pass go).

When you take a negative level, you lose a spell from your highest level spell slots.
Question: Does this effect extend to the Epic Spell slots? Do we treat them as 10th level slots, and these are the first to go (assuming no improved spellcasting capacity)?

Thoughts, opinions, page numbers? Thx.

Later!

 

[Crothian]

I think Epic spell slots are only effected by ranks in Spellcraft, so I don't think you'd lose them that way. You might lose them since all skills go down and your effective caster level might be to low to cast them.

 

[Cloudgatherer]

Any other opinions?

 

[ruleslawyer]

Yes, mine. I agree with Crothian 100%.

 

[kreynolds]

Any other opinions?

Yes. I'm with Crothian. Negative levels do not effect epic spells like normal spells because epic spells do not use slots. How many you can cast per day is determined by your spellcraft. So, as your spellcraft goes down, your number of epic spells per day will go down.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Yes. I'm with Crothian.

This is getting real scary!

 

[drnuncheon]

Yes. I'm with Crothian. Negative levels do not effect epic spells like normal spells because epic spells do not use slots. How many you can cast per day is determined by your

Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (Religion) and/or Knowledge (Nature)

So, as your

Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (Religion) and/or Knowledge (Nature)

goes down, your number of epic spells per day will go down.

Note that temporary negative levels don't actually lower your ranks in skills - they provide a -1 penalty to all skill checks per negative level, but that wouldn't reduce the actual skill.

If and when they became permanent, of course, the skill ranks could be affected.

J

 

[Grazzt]

Gotta go with Crothian, kreynolds, and the rest of the gang on this one.

 

[kreynolds]

Knowledge (Arcana), Knowledge (Religion) and/or Knowledge (Nature)

Are you sure?

EDIT. Yup! There it is. Page 72. Thanks!

Note that temporary negative levels don't actually lower your ranks in skills - they provide a -1 penalty to all skill checks per negative level, but that wouldn't reduce the actual skill.

If and when they became permanent, of course, the skill ranks could be affected.

Yup.

 

[Jondor_Battlehammer]

It also states in the ELH that Epic spells are treated in many ways like 10th level spells. Just to stop all this agreeing stuff.

This could get interesting when you get 11th level spells.