Eliminating Eastern Flavor From D&D?

[Rechan]

How does the term "War of Northern Aggression" relate to race or racism? I mean, it was white "aggressors" on white "defenders".

I don't want to derail the discussion, but...

The racist part is that the war was over slavery. The South was for slavery (or for the right to practice it, in their eyes). Thus, the implication is that anyone who defends the South's stance (by flying a rebel flag, by saying the North was acting in aggression), are implicitly condoning or siding with the act of slavery. Because they are framing the North as the bad guys for attacking the south over slavery.

To Southerners, the Civil War and its symbols are a matter of regional identity and pride. Of stubbornness and standing your ground, and defending your territory, so to speak.

 

[Bullgrit]

The racist part is that the war was over slavery. The South was for slavery (or for the right to practice it, in their eyes). Thus, the implication is that anyone who defends the South's stance (by flying a rebel flag, by saying the North was acting in aggression), are implicitly condoning or siding with the act of slavery. Because they are framing the North as the bad guys for attacking the south over slavery.

To Southerners, the Civil War and its symbols are a matter of regional identity and pride. Of stubbornness and standing your ground, and defending your territory, so to speak.

You mix some correct things with some inaccurate things in this post. But I agree this thread isn't the place to pursue the debate. (Plus I just won't have the time for the next few days to carry on a discussion on the subject.) So I'll let it go. Reluctantly.

Bullgrit

 

[Gentlegamer]

aside: The United States has never had a civil war.

A civil war is where two or more factions fight for control of the government. The Confederacy wasn't trying to take over or rule the United States, it wanted to separate.

England, however, has had a civil war, fought between cavaliers and roundheads.

 

[rgard]

aside: The United States has never had a civil war.

A civil war is where two or more factions fight for control of the government. The Confederacy wasn't trying to take over or rule the United States, it wanted to separate.

England, however, has had a civil war, fought between cavaliers and roundheads.

I'm told there's a British historian who calls the American Revolution the "Second English Civil War."

 

[S'mon]

I'm told there's a British historian who calls the American Revolution the "Second English Civil War."

At school in UK (Belfast) we were taught the "War of American Independence", what Americans inaccurately call the "Revolutionary War".
It did bear many characteristics of an English civil war, and many British Whigs sympathised with the rebels.

We call the 1861-65 conflict the American Civil War, though I think the most accurate term I've heard is "The War Between the States". "War of Southern Secession" isn't widely used but I think would be technically accurate. "War of Northern Aggression" seems inaccurate in that the South fired first and the North was fighting to prevent secession, though I guess it captures the 'total war' element of the conflict.

 

[Rel]

Thread closed at the request of the OP.