Elvin pally?

[Cam Banks]

Are you sure about that? The Knights are rather biased towards humans, so an elven Paladin would be entirely appropriate.

That note in the Dragonlance Campaign Setting simply states that they are non-standard. We've addressed this in later sourcebooks, such as Holy Orders of the Stars, since as you correctly state the Knights of Solamnia are human-only (and not all of them are even spellcasters).

Dragonlance divine spellcasters must remain within one step of their deity's alignment, however. Mystics, who are spontaneous divine casters, are the exception, since they don't get their powers from a god.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[wingsandsword]

Are you sure about that? The Knights are rather biased towards humans, so an elven Paladin would be entirely appropriate.

Looking at the Dragonlance Campaign Setting book itself, being Human is not a requirement for the Knight of the Crown, Knight of the Sword, or Knight of the Rose classes, and being human isn't mentioned anywhere as a hard mechanical requirement. It does say that they are traditionally human-only, but after the War of the Lance began to allow half-elves, and any other race would be an exceptional case.

However, Paladins as a class aren't normally allowed either. There is a sidebar on page 52, mentioning that normally the Knights of Solamnia replace them and normally Paladins aren't used in Dragonlance. Paladins may exist only on a case-by-case basis with DM approval as a chamption of a good deity (Kiri-Jolith is given as an example).

So, in either case an Elven Paladin, or an Elven Knight of Solamnia, you will have a special case and a character that is probably unique in the world.

 

[Cam Banks]

However, Paladins as a class aren't normally allowed either. There is a sidebar on page 52, mentioning that normally the Knights of Solamnia replace them and normally Paladins aren't used in Dragonlance.

As I said, we addressed this later. We've also updated the Knights of Solamnia, revised the Wizards of High Sorcery, expanded the gods and their clerics, and other areas that needed more attention than was given them in the DLCS.

So, elven paladin, no problem.

Cheers,
Cam

 

[Kaodi]

All elven paladins worship Wizardry 8. Rapier and dagger, chainmail wearing all the way!

 

[Johnnie Freedom!]

You know, it totally sucks the drama out of something as noble as an elven paladin to call him a pally.

But I think it's an unwritten rule that teenage D&D players have to say "pally" instead of "paladin". It sounds, you know, cool or something. These are the same folks who call a shotgun a "shotty".

We were all young once.

 

[JustKim]

But I think it's an unwritten rule that teenage D&D players have to say "pally" instead of "paladin". It sounds, you know, cool or something. These are the same folks who call a shotgun a "shotty".

We were all young once.

It comes from online games. No self-respecting teenager would say "Let's go to McDonny's for some hambies", but you cannot play Diablo 2 for half an hour without hearing about "pallys" and "skellys". It's not really abbreviation and it's not really cool. Near as I can tell it's a bizarre show of internet affection to randomly talk like a four year old.

 

[LoneWolf23]

In Eberron, I don't know, but there is probably something appropriate.

In Eberron, an Elven Paladin's divine patron would depend on his origin.. If he's an Aereni or Valenar Elf, he'd worship the Undying Court, which is Neutral Good. Otherwise, if he's an Urban Elf, he'd worship Dol Arrah (LG) or the Silver Flame (LG).

 

[Sejs]

But I think it's an unwritten rule that teenage D&D players have to say "pally" instead of "paladin".

Whenever I've encountered it, it's just being used as shorthand. 'Pally' is to paladin what 'barb' is to barbarian and 'psywar' is to psychic warrior.

 

[Aaron L]

No self-respecting teenager would say "Let's go to McDonny's for some hambies"

Maybe not, but I'm sure as hell gonna start saying that.

 

[Ranger REG]

Whenever I've encountered it, it's just being used as shorthand. 'Pally' is to paladin what 'barb' is to barbarian...

Nope. Calling a paladin "pally" is akin to calling a barbarian "barby," both will result in physical harm.