John Crichton
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There was the one ep where Rom conspired to flush Quark out an airlock and I'm pretty sure there was at least one more episode that involved something similar. But the Ferengi one was the one I was thinking of.
Enterprise 09-10-03 (Season Premiere!)
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Which always reminded me of Babylon 5, they were always talking about it.John Crichton said:Kinda, but that part of Firefly reminded me of DS9.
Mark
CreativeMountainGames.com
Mark said:
No problem here with "an angry Archer." I think it is a nice change of pace from the overly PC leaders of everything since TNG, and even different enough from Cowboy Kirk to pique my interest for this new season.
I'm particular impressed by the council of aliens at the end. That's definitely a fine way to shrug off the mantle of forehead adjusted races we've been very used to seeing (and which so many have used as a crutch to complain about the various series and genre in general.)
Three cheers for the new direction!
Orius
Unrepentant DM Supremacist
I finally got to see the episode.
The topless T'Pol scene was totally gratuitous. He's massaging what, the base of her neck? Was there any logical reason for her to take off her top? She's Vulcan; they're not at all sexual, it just senms out of character for her.
Maybe this is going to be a standard feature on Enterprise, we'll get to see a female crew member lose her top at the beginning of every season! Remember Hoshi losing her top last season? At least that was a kind of "Oops!" scene that happened accidentally, and was kind of a bit of comic relief. This was more of a case of the prodcers telling us in their not-so-subtle way, "Look, T'Pol's hot!" -- again.
I agree with the points on the theme song remix; it sounded bad. I liked the theme song originally, I think it fit the whole basis of the show. I don't really care if they ditch it or not.
Other wise the episode wasn't bad. Though the debris field looks like more murkiness that the writers/produceres won't solve or if they do solve it it will be something lame.
The topless T'Pol scene was totally gratuitous. He's massaging what, the base of her neck? Was there any logical reason for her to take off her top? She's Vulcan; they're not at all sexual, it just senms out of character for her.
Maybe this is going to be a standard feature on Enterprise, we'll get to see a female crew member lose her top at the beginning of every season! Remember Hoshi losing her top last season? At least that was a kind of "Oops!" scene that happened accidentally, and was kind of a bit of comic relief. This was more of a case of the prodcers telling us in their not-so-subtle way, "Look, T'Pol's hot!" -- again.
I agree with the points on the theme song remix; it sounded bad. I liked the theme song originally, I think it fit the whole basis of the show. I don't really care if they ditch it or not.
Other wise the episode wasn't bad. Though the debris field looks like more murkiness that the writers/produceres won't solve or if they do solve it it will be something lame.
stevelabny
Explorer
i finally sat down to watch this season's premiere, just in time to watch tonight's episode.
first a little history of me and trek:
watched a lot of syndicated reruns of ST:TOS when i was young. it was ok, but no star wars.
watched the first few episodes of ST:TNG, wasnt impressed. watched off and on. started watching regularly in the middle for a bit. always thought it was "eh"
liked STS9 the best. more soap-operaish, more character development (although mostly it was just illusionary) , some fun characters, some cool species and usually interesting episodes. also the first trek to usually be visually appealing.
watched ST:V pretty regularly but just to mock it. Janeway gave away the ship every episode. Seven was completely ridiculous. Tuvok was a joke. The Doctor was the only remotely interesting character.
watched the first two or three episodes of Enterprise. UGH. they made every possible wrong decision on what to do with the franchise. have only caught one or two episodes since then.
But, all this talk of the new direction and new alien species made me decide i would be a bad geek if i didnt sample the new season.
so first,i magically acquired a copy of the last episode of last season. watched it with the gf who was a ST:TNG fan-girl. we basically kept pausing it to laugh at it. quantum dating stuff from the future with a NEGATIVE date was the most hysterical nonsense i've ever seen. things like this is why time travel should be avoided at all costs.
the premiere was mildly interesting but as is now to be expected had so many moments that made you cringe. the gratuitous sex scenes on tv are sad normally and insulting on star trek. like naked chicks? me too. go buy some porn.
the crew on this ship is completely uninteresting. still. worst crew ever.
there isnt a single character im happy to see walk on the screen.
cons: the writing sucks
the characters suck
vulcan soft-core porn is silly
pros: the twist ending
non-humanoid aliens rock. more of them, please
jake 2.0 was worse
(as an aside, one guy from POPULAR is on Enterprise, one is the lead in Jake 2.0, and the chubby chick has (had?) her own sitcom...what happened to the hot chicks from Popular?)
I will now predict that the xindi counsel/ homeworld is on an invisible "death star" (or portable planet) and the decimated planet is their first victim.
um , is it me, or shouldnt they have followed up on the season premiere in tonights episode?
first a little history of me and trek:
watched a lot of syndicated reruns of ST:TOS when i was young. it was ok, but no star wars.
watched the first few episodes of ST:TNG, wasnt impressed. watched off and on. started watching regularly in the middle for a bit. always thought it was "eh"
liked ST
S9 the best. more soap-operaish, more character development (although mostly it was just illusionary) , some fun characters, some cool species and usually interesting episodes. also the first trek to usually be visually appealing.watched ST:V pretty regularly but just to mock it. Janeway gave away the ship every episode. Seven was completely ridiculous. Tuvok was a joke. The Doctor was the only remotely interesting character.
watched the first two or three episodes of Enterprise. UGH. they made every possible wrong decision on what to do with the franchise. have only caught one or two episodes since then.
But, all this talk of the new direction and new alien species made me decide i would be a bad geek if i didnt sample the new season.
so first,i magically acquired a copy of the last episode of last season. watched it with the gf who was a ST:TNG fan-girl. we basically kept pausing it to laugh at it. quantum dating stuff from the future with a NEGATIVE date was the most hysterical nonsense i've ever seen. things like this is why time travel should be avoided at all costs.
the premiere was mildly interesting but as is now to be expected had so many moments that made you cringe. the gratuitous sex scenes on tv are sad normally and insulting on star trek. like naked chicks? me too. go buy some porn.
the crew on this ship is completely uninteresting. still. worst crew ever.
there isnt a single character im happy to see walk on the screen.
cons: the writing sucks
the characters suck
vulcan soft-core porn is silly
pros: the twist ending
non-humanoid aliens rock. more of them, please
jake 2.0 was worse
(as an aside, one guy from POPULAR is on Enterprise, one is the lead in Jake 2.0, and the chubby chick has (had?) her own sitcom...what happened to the hot chicks from Popular?)
I will now predict that the xindi counsel/ homeworld is on an invisible "death star" (or portable planet) and the decimated planet is their first victim.
um , is it me, or shouldnt they have followed up on the season premiere in tonights episode?
Brown Jenkin
First Post
stevelabny said:
Not if you watched the first 2 seasons. Consistency is not a halmark of the series.
I'll just chip in and agree with those who liked the old theme better. Also, I find the Enterprise intro to be far better than the ones on Voyager and DS9, because those intros were the most boring intros ever. Oooh, picture of space and a spaceship/station, big whoop. They should look at B5 for a good lesson in how intros are supposed to look (especially connecting the actor names to the names and/or faces of the characters - e.g. instead of just saying "Jolene Blalock", say "Jolene Blalock as T'pol").
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