Enterprise 10-08-03

[ColonelHardisson]

I liked it. They've established a trend of being a starship crew that actually does things in space, as opposed to standing around the bridge looking distressed. I mean, it wasn't until First Contact that anyone in the TNG crew actually put on a spacesuit.

Plus, the asteroid field scenes were cool.

Yeah, the CG work on the asteroids was spectacular.

The point about them doing something in space is a good one. The related point about the space suits is another. Now, if they'd only get their military guys to wear freakin' helmets when they go into battle! They armor all of their bodies, except the most vulnerable part...

 

[ColonelHardisson]

Best episode of the season so far. Firing weapons (lots of weapons fire ) is ALWAYS cool. Ships blowin up is ALWAYS cool. Asteroid fields are ALWAYS cool.

Ergo, this episode is cool by default.

It's funny, 'cause about 3/4 of the way through the episode, I had a similar thought. Plus, it was kind of creepy-fun to see a whole mess of Vulcan zombies twitching around the interior of a ruined starship.

 

[Viking Bastard]

I agree with this 100%. I was hoping that the "Delphic Expanses" concept was an attempt by the Trek team to take the show in just such a direction. So far, it seems to have been borne out. However, with the way Archer is acting, and the general malaise the crew has been under, it's hard to see them doing anything really lighthearted or whimsical, which the old series did.

I'm not meaning Campy. I'm meaning Wacky. Strange things and
general weirdness. Out-There concepts. High imagination. Cosmic
adventures. TOS had it all, but beyond a few episodes it's been
missing in the TNG-era stuff. When they originally said that ENT
would be more TOS-like, that's what I hoped for and I still do.

I like Campy too, if not overdone, but it wasn't really my point.

 

[nHammer]

Perhaps T'Pol will take off her shirt again,

She didn't take it off herself, but I had to laugh when the camera view made a point of showing she wasn't wearing a shirt in med-lab.

 

[mojo1701]

Seems like this incident might help Archer regain some of his perspective and lose part of his head-strong-at-all-costs attitude.

Yeah. I hear a lot of people who try to compare him to Kirk. Kirk was headstrong, but he wasn't stupid.

Everything has been done before, either inside or outside of ST. What are your thoughts on this episode as it stands alone?

I liked it (keep in mind that I am very easy to please entertainment-wise, but if I really don't like something {e.g. The Hulk}...). I liked the zombie Vulcans, although the explanation using the Trellium-D I didn't quite expect. I expected some virus that they caught in the asteroid field and might've contaminated Enterprise.

They seem to be taking a chapter from the trend in movies to adjust speeds and use cut frame techniques. Seems to work well enough for me, but I can see how it might bother some folks. For one friend of mine it totally ruined his experience with Braveheart

Yeah. I remember something like this in Gladiator, I think, or was it something else. I liked the effect done there at times.

 

[uv23]

I just finished watching this episode and I actually am having a hard time accepting just how good it was. Definitely mfavorite episode of Enterprise so far, and an episode that I truly wanted to watch through to the end. Everything was very well done: the set, makeup, mood, lighting, film techniques, acting. Whats not to love about vulcan zombies chasing the crew down dark strobing hallways! Also, the budget seemed to be higher on this episode, especially noticable with the explosion effects and CGI, as well as with the set. Jolly good show. Nice and dark, good ending. My faith is renewed perhaps.

 

[Shadeus]

This episode only tangentially had to do with the main story arc of finding the Xindi. They mentioned the Xindi in the first scene and the ore to protect the ship was also relavent. But as a whole, it didn't progress the plot forward any further. We are still in the dark about this "continuum" of strange being in the expanse or even why it is screwed up to begin with? And what was the real purpose of that "warehouse" the pirate ship was using?

What I'm waiting to see how angry the Vulcan are going to be that their ship was destroyed by a human once they find out. What kind of tensions are going to arrise from that?

But I have agree...the asteroid field was very cool, especially the collisions.

 

[myrdden]

I thought it was a decent episode. Lots of action, good FX...pretty strong for ENT actually. I find it amusing though that the senior officers always seem to be off the ship at the same time. Doesn't anybody stay behind and run the ship?

I missed the connection between the trellium-D and the Vulcan psychosis. Was it poisonous to them? If so, how does that stop the crew from lining the hull of Enterprise with it? Can't it be placed in such a way that T'Pol can't come in contact with it? Like I said, I missed that part of the episode.

The only part I really cringed during the whole episode was Archer's speech AGAIN that he can't do certain actions without losing his humanity. Isn't this now the third time's said that this season? It's starting to become comical.

All in all though, I liked the episode.

Myrdden

 

[Mark]

Yeah. I hear a lot of people who try to compare him to Kirk. Kirk was headstrong, but he wasn't stupid.

Let me think on this one a bit. I seem to remember Kirk doing some things that didn't seem too bright or, at the least, foolish.

I liked it (keep in mind that I am very easy to please entertainment-wise, but if I really don't like something {e.g. The Hulk}...). I liked the zombie Vulcans, although the explanation using the Trellium-D I didn't quite expect. I expected some virus that they caught in the asteroid field and might've contaminated Enterprise.

I'm generally easy to please, as well. Mostly, my expectations aren't overly high and I tend to look for the good I can take from any experience rather than dwell on the bad, which leaves me fairly satisfied in most situations. There are exceptions for me also (e.g. D&D Movie) but they tend to be in the extreme.

I like your idea for the virus and think it would have worked just as well as what they did.

Yeah. I remember something like this in Gladiator, I think, or was it something else. I liked the effect done there at times.

Absolutely, and even more extensively than what what used in Braveheart. It's odd my friend doesn't cite that as his example as it is an even more glaring one. I'll try to remember to run that past him the next time we talk and see if he has other mitigating reasons why he points toward losing his ability to buy in to the one but not the other, if that's the case.

 

[uv23]

I also like how the dangers that the expanse poses to vulcans is due to a really bad allergy, rather than any supernatural causes. Makes the high command look really silly and superstitious and demystifies the region somewhat. Though I like the idea of creepy expanses of space and space horror (I actually enjoyed event horizon) I like the irony of this, considering what the vulcans choose to believe (the expanse makes vulcans crazy because its evil, basically) and not believe (time travel). I just woke up so this may not be coherent.