ENWorld = whiners arguing ?

[Joshua Randall]

On General, there are a dedicated core of "I hate 3.5e"/"I hate Wizards"/"I hate 3e" posters. I'm slowly adding them to my ignore lists

Dude, can you PM me that list? Seriously.

 

[jgbrowning]

This Thread: A buncha whiners whining about how they're not whining or whining?

The head 'plodes!

joe b.

 

[Legildur]

I find this thread interesting, especially the opinions about the Rules forum. That's where I hang 95% of the time. And 4.5% of the time in the Software & Computers forum.

I actually enjoy the Rules forum. Even as a (very) long time gamer, I like to discover new things about the game. I'm still learning now. And I take my role as our group's rule lawyer very seriously. Yes, some people take that as a negative.

I'm with Andargar in this. I lurk (and post occasionally) on the Rules thread almost exclusively for the same reasons. And dabble in Playing the Game and Story Hour (mostly just Piratecat's stuff due to time). But I do pick up some interesting threads via the 'latest forum topics' hit list on the front page (such as this thread in Meta).

Yeah, the quality of debate in the Rules forum has declined over recent times. I've been around these boards for a while now and and have only seen a handful of posts I thought were inappropriate, but only one poster whose face I would have bloodied had the comments been made face-to-face. I don't bother with the ignore list for those immature enough to resort to insults or simply spend their time whining as I'm quite capable of reading over stuff I'm not interested in. Besides, I don't think anyone posts crap all the time - they can still provide some useful comments on occasions.

I have seen a number of quite heated debates on the Rules forum, but I've been pleased with the maturity of responses in the bulk of cases.

I only use EnWorld, as the boards have been useful and kind in the whole over the years. I've heard lots of bad things about the Wizards boards, but haven't really tested it as I get everything I need at EnWorld.

Long live EnWorld!

 

[Rystil Arden]

This Thread: A buncha whiners whining about how they're not whining or whining?

The head 'plodes!

joe b.

Well, since whining about whining would probably be called metawhining, the subforum choice is highly appropriate

 

[mythusmage]

Heck, I have 10,000+ posts here, and people mostly STILL don't listen to what I have to say, unless it's something official. Sometimes, not even then!

After your treatment of Eleanor of Acquataine I am not surprised.

 

[Henry]

After your treatment of Eleanor of Aquitaine I am not surprised.

Psst - wrong Henry - about 400 years my senior...

 

[diaglo]

Psst - wrong Henry - about 400 years my senior...

but aren't you the Missing Link? Lancelot

bet you never heard that one before

 

[genshou]

On General, there are a dedicated core of "I hate 3.5e"/"I hate Wizards"/"I hate 3e" posters. I'm slowly adding them to my ignore lists, and I really wish that would also mean they couldn't see my posts.

Most of the people around here are good people, but there are a few I'd rather like to see gone.

Cheers!

MerricB:

I'm very vocal about my hatred of 3.5 . To sate my curiosity, have I ended up on your ignore list?

 

[johnsemlak]

I've seen several references to the rules forum being the thickest hive of mindless bickering on EN World. I don't post there much except when I want help on specific issues, so I have a hard time understanding how the RUles forum could be such a heated place.

To illustrate this, let me put forward two hypothetical (note--not typical) conversations, one in the rules forum and one in general:

RULES FORUM:

Poster 1: How many HP does a Level 1 Fighter with a 14 con have?
Poster 2: 13 HP.
Poster 3: No, it's 11 HP.
Poster 2: No, you're wrong, it's 13.
Poster 3: No I'm rigth, it's 11. You're wrong.
Poster 1: (scratches head)
Poster 2: I am sure I'm right. Let's check the SRD.
* * *
Poster 2: Well, it's actually 12.
Poster 3: Yes, that's correct.
Poster 1: Thanks everyone.
Poster 2: You're welcome, and sorry POSTER 3.
Poster 3: No, I'm sorry. My fault.
Poster 2: My fault too. Peace and smiles.
Poster 3: Ditto.
Poster 4: So how many HP does a level 1 Wizard have with an 8 CON?
Poster 2: I think it's 4.
Poster 3: No, I think it's 2.
Poster 2: I think i'm right and you're wr-; Um, let's check the SRD...


GENERAL FORUM

Poster 1: Balance is more important than flavor.
Poster 2: No, Flavor is more important than balance.
Poster 1: No, Balance is more important. Unbalanced games are discouraging for players.
Poster 2: No, flavor is more important. Balance makes games stale and boring.
Poster 1: No, I'm RIGHT.
Poster 2: No, I"m RIGHT.

* * *

Poster 1: I'M RIGHT.
Poster 2: YOU'RE WRONG.
Poster 1: YOU'RE WRONG.
Poster 2: I'M WRONG
Poster 1: I'M WRONG
Poster 2: (chuckles) Gotcha!
Poster 3: OD&D (1974) is the on-
Everyone: Shut Up!
Poster 1: I'm Right

 

[Rystil Arden]

I've seen several references to the rules forum being the thickest hive of mindless bickering on EN World. I don't post there much except when I want help on specific issues, so I have a hard time understanding how the RUles forum could be such a heated place.

To illustrate this, let me put forward two hypothetical (note--not typical) conversations, one in the rules forum and one in general:

The worst threads in the rules forum for arguments are the ones when Wizards puts out a FAQ or Rules of the Game article that is patently wrong and contradicts itself and the core books. Half the people will say that it makes it right if they say it on the website, even though those two features are supposed to be clarifications. The other half will say that you should ignore those features.