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Calinon said:How do you mean?
Getting a pin takes two rounds if I read the rules right.
Round 1
Make an attack roll. If you hit, you start a grapple by putting a hold on the opponent and possibly dealing damage. You are now grappling.
Round 2
As an attack action you can do further damage to your opponent, pin him, break another's pin or escape a pin. Since it is an attack action as well, starting the grapple and starting a pin can't happen in one round unless you have a feat that allows it.
I'm pretty sure I did it right, I was reading up on it again to make sure while doing the round. Heck, I even said you had hold of his arm, making one cannon kind of useless.
Anyway, expect possibly spotty updates for a while, as I quit my job today.
I'd have to check, but I believe it works that on the first action (given the Spycraft like system of 2 half actions) I made a grapple attack and succeeded. The second of the 2 half actions would have been the pin. My initial attack should do no damage, as it is a grapple attack. After I have grappled a target I can decide to either damage them, or move to a pin on my next action.
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