epic monsters

[Sodalis]

Xarlen
Has it ever struck anyone that a lot of these epic critters could be OUTSIDERS?

I was going to say that... but darn you for beating me there...

I was thinking that most of these super-monsters are planar- because seeing as how there are a dozen planes that onlyth emost powerful prime beings can reach- and then there are a dozen more that we cant, what makes you think that the material world is the most powerful or has the best monsters?

i was reading the MotP and saw the axiomatic Bullette. And that thing is about ten times more powerful than the bullette that is in the MM. So that means that there are variations among planes, and there are a lot moe planes than you can shakea stick at.

Another thing is that different powers and abilities work difefrently on differing planes (as per planescape). I remember staring in horror at my DM when I found out that my +4 sword of flaming burst was only a +1 sword in limbo. That scared the bajeezes out of me to know that magic behaves differently, but it makes sense...
So a baby from this plane like the kobold, may the uber-vilain of the plane of froggies- having all energy immunity and ability to cast any spells at will as a free action.

And i thought the tarrasque was scary until newer books came out- and I saw that there was the astral dreadnaught... that thing mademe fear planar travel... and i still am. Material plane is tame compared to some of the things that i had to go through to retrieve some artifact i didnt know how to use...

and there is more.. but you shoudl be tired of my whining by now,.

 

[Xarlen]

Right, man.

I mean, think about the Demilich. These things Don't go around the country side unleashing their superpowers on people. As I remember it, the Demilich's body is basicly gone, save the skull, and their essence planetravels. So, the suckers will come Back only when disturbed, or hungry for souls to eat. What does this mean? Don't Go Knocking on a Demilich's Door.

Sure, there's some monsters in the material plane (Look at that cockroach thing in Dragon #296), but they're not so much to destroy ecologies. I mean, some creatures may eat what, once every hundred years? THe roach thing could live in the sewer of a city, come out at night, suck bums dry of their energies, then just go back and hibernate. It doesn't break the world. Just means they're Very Hard To Kill.

 

[Savage Wombat]

Anyone ever read "Legacy of Heorot?"

Imagine this as a plot...

1) Start of new campaign - the PCs (not 20th lvl) manage to kill the Tarrasque.

2) Little do they know the ecological damage they've wreaked... without the full grown Tarrasque to devour them, the unrecognized larval Tarrasques (rust monsters? carrion crawlers? kobolds?) ALL grow to their adult form.

3) Six months later the PCs must now destroy endless hordes of hungry Tarrasques... somehow.

 

[the Jester]

As far as ecological damage goes, obviously you folks need campaign worlds with larger surface areas to spread these creatures out. Take my campaign, f'rinstance; it's on the inside surface of an air bubble in a vast ocean. The bubble is 780,000 miles in diameter. Lotsa room for nasties- and legends of things that swallow whole continents already exist.