Essentials Dice Set vs. Premium Dice = WTF?

[Morrus]

I have a set of Q Workshop cthulhu dice that look super cool, but I've stopped using the d20 because it rolls significantly more 12-16 than anything else.

12,13,14 and 16 aren't next to each other on a d20.

 

[TikkchikFenTikktikk]

Casinos are a multi-billion dollar industry with an entire margin built on probabilities and insane numbers of rolls. The "hold" is 3% - 7% in Nevada (7% on the Vegas strip, 3% outside of town, for example) and everything is predicated off those numbers.

We're a bunch of schlubs sitting around pretending to be elves. Our need of that level of precision doesn't exist outside of anal-retentive ego.

Speak for yourself. I am not a schlub, I'm not anal-retentive. And I sure as the nine-hells never pretend to be an elf.

I'd thank you to lay off the insults.

 

[aurance]

I have done tests. My previous assertion stands. There will be a degree of error with most dice, but certainly not to the extent that you'll observe them with any level of mathematical confidence that "they appear random after 100 rolls."

As for your 4th year student, I've taken graduate stats classes, and used to analyze data for research publications, so...

Also, what Morrus and Herschel said. (There's a lot of money riding on casino dice; they need to be crafted to a whole other standard than tabletop RPG dice.)

 

[Pseudonym]

And if you REALLY like crown you can get multiple colors of bags. I've got the regular purple one, a black one, a gold one, and a red leather one.

I'm partial to my new leather dice bag from a bottle of Ron Pampero Anniversario.

 

[Holy Bovine]

I'm going to dispute this video. RPG dice are not rolled to an extent where tiny imperfections make any significant changes to probabilities. You can test this yourself - do a Chi-squared test on your "regular" dice vs. some of these Gamescience dice.

In fact a series of numbers generated by a true random number generator, at a small enough sample set, will most definitely SEEM streaky. That's a bias, not of the dice, but of human nature. When we see 20 numbers out of a d20, we expect to see a nice distribution of 1-20, when the odds of that happening are actually quite small. This is what accounts for the "dice superstition," not any appreciable difference between cheap dice and Gamescience dice.

Cheapo dice will do just fine as long as you don't chew on them or something.

See for me it isn`t about Zocchi`s dice rolling `more random`or anything. As strange as it may sound I love the manner in which they roll. They bounce once or twice from a normal toss and then stop. Some of my fellow players seem to love those `forever rollers`with the heavily rounded edges that just keep rolling and rolling stopping only when they hit something (it is really hysterical if they start yanking books and pop cans out of the errant die`s path!).

Also Ive had a Gamescience d20 for nearly 30 years and its edges are as sharp and clean as the brand new GS dice I picked up last year. That is some quality workmanship to me.

 

[lin_fusan]

Besides, that's the Game Science guy's sales pitch. I certainly won't deny a guy's right to sell a product and pitch it as superior.

And anyone can say we don't need uber-precise highly-crafted dice, just like I don't need dice made of meteorite.

But I wants it... my precious...

Maybe I just like dice... maybe too much...

 

[Argyle King]

Honestly, if someone were to craft a set of gaming dice using casino standards, I'd probably be willing to pay a little extra for that. I think it would be pretty cool to have a set of precision gaming dice. Forged in the fires of Mount Doom; one dice set to rule them all!

 

[Herschel]

Speak for yourself. I am not a schlub, I'm not anal-retentive. And I sure as the nine-hells never pretend to be an elf.

I'd thank you to lay off the insults.

It's a game where we pretend to be a character, many times a non-human. There's no money riding on it, it isn't our livelihood. If you WANT precision dice, that's cool, but you don't NEED precision dice to have just as much fun playing the game as anyone else.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

1) I LOVE my Zocchi dice
peridot and fiery orange (forget right name) are not only greta looking they do indeed stop rolling quickly, which is a GOOD thing, especially if you have a dog who loves chewing things hehe

2) I also love my haematite dice, however they are far too small for most use, sigh
12mm is not really big enough, especially as ye get older. heartily recommend them if they were larger though, so heavy they again, don't roll far (haematite = solid iron!)

 

[TarionzCousin]

Speak for yourself. I am not a schlub, I'm not anal-retentive. And I sure as the nine-hells never pretend to be an elf.

I'd thank you to lay off the insults.

I believe you are missing the point. Pretending to be a gnome is essentially the same as pretending to be an elf for Herschel's premise.