Branduil
Hero
The problem is that Glaive and Double-weapon users can take this feat twice and it will stack with itself.
Excerpts: PHB2 - Heric Tier Feats
- Thread starter catsclaw227
- Start date
The problem is that Glaive and Double-weapon users can take this feat twice and it will stack with itself.
Sir Osis of Liver
Explorer
ok, i see the gawd awful mind breaking (at least at quarter after two in the morning
) math supports what you're saying, but it seems pretty bland to make your characters that way. I guess if your a hard core power gamer...
Now THAT I expect to get errataed.
Remember back when 4e was coming out, and some of us were breathing a sigh of relief at the promise of a game that no longer had to be interpreted like some arcane talmudic tome? I knew that couldn't last. Because gamers WILL interpret game rules that way, whether the designers want them to or not.
You don't have to be a hard core power gamer to want a +3 to your attack rolls. Do you like hitting everything on an 11+? Wouldn't you rather hit on an 8+? Its that simple.ok, i see the gawd awful mind breaking (at least at quarter after two in the morning
And this basically illustrates why its sad that they had to patch the game by means of a feat. There will be people out there who think like you and don't take the feat.
Mr. Wilson
Explorer
I think we're all kinda stumped atm, which is why I wish WoTC would explain the design process behind this feat.
As I side note, Ghostcrawler posting on the WoW forums about designer logic might be spoiling me ;p.
Branduil
Hero
Well, it seems like there are a million ways they could have fixed the math problem, and they went out of their way to choose the worst one possible. It's pretty amazing actually.
Sir Osis of Liver
Explorer
I dunno, I guess. I mean yes hitting on a lower number is absolutely better then hitting on a higher one. I just don't see this feat being the end all be all of the feat world. Given the option i'd rather take something that gives me more interesting options, or enhances my abilities in differant ways. Not to say it's not a very good option, it just isn't an absolute nessesity no matter what. At least from my pov.
Majoru Oakheart
Adventurer
And I agree. I can see SOME characters not taking this. But, by the end, there will be some level where you compare it to the rest of your choices and it seems like a better idea. My fighter doesn't want it more than Polearm Momentum and Eladrin Soldier but at level 4 I took Durable. I'm for sure retraining out of it or taking Weapon Expertise at level 6.
My priority(and I think many people's priority) when taking feats is "How often is this going to benefit me?" I could take the feat that gives me +2 to init and the ability to shift as a minor action during the first round of combat. But it adds 2 to one die roll per combat that doesn't matter all that much. Compared to +1 to all my attack rolls(which is about 12 per combat), it's kind of a no-brainer.
If it didn't scale up to +3, I'd say it was a take it or leave it sort of feat.
Right. And at epic tier, when you're hitting on a 12+ while your allies hit on a 9+, you will either change your mind, or grow steadily more frustrated without realizing why. You'll have a dim sense that you fail more often than everyone else, and that everyone else is better than you. You personally will probably then take the feat, but there's a lot of people out there who will blame their character class or their DM or otherwise not understand that this feat wasn't really optional if they wanted to not suck in comparison to the rest of their party.
Similar Threads
