Fantasy Sex Roleplaying Game Releases October 2003

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kenjib said:


Oh my aching sides!!!!!

Darn you man, that was not a mental picture I wanted to see -- especially in the rpg context!!!!!!

I actually think dice would make it worse.

Ummm, I'm probably gonna regret asking this but.... what's larping? If it's inapropriate for the board PM me for it.
 

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This product is obviously a case for tightening-up the Open Gaming License. Clearly, this sort of thing was neither foreseen nor intended by WOTC.

To me, this represents every bad tendency I see in the RP world; if adolescent boys want to sit around and masturbate together, they can find some other pretext.

What I don't want is for anyone to mistakenly believe that sexual relations have a place in D&D or be put off the system because of such a perception.
 

caudor said:
At the same time, I'm very concerned about this topic as well. I looked at those bloody pictures (literally), and then thought about the group of 15-year-old kids I just introduced to D&D.

I many in this forum are right; I hope there is no impact at all.
I don't think the outside world will care one hoot what we do...

But on the inside of the gaming community, it seems there's a noted effort of late to take the 'PG' out of RPG...

I'm a very progressively liberal minded person, and I happen to feel the USA is way too prudish in it's approach to sex, but the combined impact of this, the Book of Vile Darkness, and similar items is taking things to an angle I personally don't care for.
 

Tidus4444 said:


Ummm, I'm probably gonna regret asking this but.... what's larping? If it's inapropriate for the board PM me for it.

LARP means Live Action Role Playing. Instead of sitting around pretending you're having adventures, you act it out with costumes and stuff. It's sort of a step between a tabletop RPG and a play. Nothing inherently sexual about it.
 

Bendris Noulg said:
Alright... "Innapropriate" I can see them saying. But "distasteful"? There are a lot of gamers into D&D because of Erotic Fantasy and have run their game as such for years.

Yeah, and do you think they think their games are actually in good taste?
 

Does anyone recall Vigilante by Steve Jackson Games? In a nutshell, it was a "LARP" in which the object was to actually kill people. Though it was presented as a LARP, it was essentially a joke/commentary with plenty of disclaimers. Anyways, this reminds me quite a bit of Vigilante. I'll believe it when I see it.
 

Next thing you know there will be "snuff" modules where groups of characters get together to go out and kill the...

Umm...

Erm...

*Backs slowly away from his books...* :eek:
 

Simplicity said:
I just hate to see such a nasty backlash against someone just because he (essentially) came out of the closet.
Absolutely agreed!

Indeed, these threads are starting to disturb me... It's akin to saying, "it's okay to play D&D so long as it's suitable to be part of the WGN Power Pack. Inspiration will not be obtained from Heavy Metal, Conan, Gor, Silverglass, or any other unacceptable source, be it fantasy or not, regardless of whether it's what got you into D&D or not."

Really, folks, Erotic Fantasy has been part of the Sword & Sorcery genre for a long time. Heck, even Dracula was risque for its time. I'm more shocked by the lack of acceptance for this aspect of fantasy than I am that the book is in production.
 

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Originally posted by Simplicity
I just hate to see such a nasty backlash against someone just because he (essentially) came out of the closet.
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Originally posted by Bendris Noulg

Absolutely agreed!

Indeed, these threads are starting to disturb me... It's akin to saying, "it's okay to play D&D so long as it's suitable to be part of the WGN Power Pack. Inspiration will not be obtained from Heavy Metal, Conan, Gor, Silverglass, or any other unacceptable source, be it fantasy or not, regardless of whether it's what got you into D&D or not."

Really, folks, Erotic Fantasy has been part of the Sword & Sorcery genre for a long time. Heck, even Dracula was risque for its time. I'm more shocked by the lack of acceptance for this aspect of fantasy than I am that the book is in production.

A.V. didn't just "come out of the closet".

He is leveraging news of his controversial lifestyle, and possibly his position at WOTC, for a controversial product for personal gain. Fans and publishers in the industry have a right to lash out at him for doing so, because he invited the criticism. He brought the personal issues up in a business context, and legitimized criticism of them.

He knew there would be controversy, and may have even planned on it for marketing reasons. No one forced him to include his "personal experiences" in a press release. He expected a backlash, and I don't feel sorry for him.

The press release was poorly done, IMO. However, I want to know more about the product and look forward to his "candid interviews" before I form an opinion of the book itself. And I do remember that A.V. has done a lot of good things for this industry, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
 

So, I guess it's real...

Well, I won't be buying it since I doubt Borders or Barnes and Noble will carry it. :D

Bendris pointed out that Conan, Heavy Metal, and several other fantasy books and mags have plenty of erotic material. While that's true, I wonder how many people want to roleplay erotic material. I suppose if AV wants to risk putting everything on the line (i.e., I have a tough time seeing him continuing working at Wizards), there's gotta be a big enough market.

Anyways, I think it's going to be a fringe product, which is fine. Personally, it sounds distasteful to me.
 

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