Fantasy Sex Roleplaying Game Releases October 2003

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Having walked away from this thread and the story in general, I had time to ponder it. Re-examining the initial press release, I think some folks may be reading a lot into it that isn't really there.

First off, the press release does contain quotes from Anthony Valterra but does not specifically state that he personally is writing it, only that he is "heavily involved" in it.

"The gaming community is mostly college age and up", says Anthony Valterra, one of the founders of Valar Project. "For years the subject of sex in a fantasy world has been whispered about in private or the subject of Internet speculation. We are simply taking a subject that everyone is curious about and bringing it to life."

There is nothing in this quote that would lead one to believe the book to be equivalent to porn. For all we know, it could be as dry as a college textbook on reproductive behaviors between animal species.

The "Tip Sheet" has all the earmarkings of a successful publicity ploy to provoke a response. It combines factoid information such as the statistical figures along with "professional qualifications" intended to sound equally factual. The likelihood of Anthony founding a club is always possible, but for the acronym to spell out ORGASM is just too convenient with the context of the press release.

"The Book of Erotic Fantasy" is created using Wizard of the Coast’s "Open Game License." This license has no approvals and no royalties and is modeled after the Linux "Open Source" movement. This is the first time that a print product has attempted to make use of this philosophy. This radical and innovative idea has revolutionized and revitalized the role-playing game industry by allowing anyone to create products compatible with the Dungeons & Dragons? game system. Anthony Valterra has overseen the license for the last three years.

Notice it doesn't say the product is directly compatible. It merely says the license has allowed for the creation of compatible products. However, later in the article a quote supposedly from Anthony states:
"This book reveals the erotic side of the high fantasy genre (elves, dragon, fairies etc.) and contains roleplaying rules that are compatible with the best selling Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game.

This product will bring new levels of realism to the roleplaying genre. Rather than illustrations, photos of models were taken. These images were then run through Photoshop to create a realistic fantasy world." Anthony Valterra, Valar Project, Inc.

This would run completely contrary to everything Anthony has stood for in his position at Wizards of the Coast. For a person who is directly charged with overseeing operations that include monitoring of the OGL, to make a statement like this on the record is illogical. There is a lot about the initial press release that sounds more like a casual conversation than an official formal press release.

The fact remains that there really is not much information we know other than this initial press release and the now very public outcry about it. As has been mentioned several times on this thread, the initial reactions to the Book of Vile Darkness were very parallel to what we see here. Rather than condemning something that no one has ever seen, why not wait for more details before someone is nominated for crucifixation followed by tar and feathers?
 

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A few one-liners that spring to mind:

* I guess now we'll have to redefine "hardcore gaming".

* This whole venture must put WotC between a rock and a hard place!

* Now adventurers will actually have a use for the 10' pole.

* Will this game require a DM or an S/M, I wonder?

* Wood Elves.
 


1. i will buy it, TBH i hought this would of been out a while ago with the OGL.

2. Perhaps this will be a parting shot from Anthony to wotc. He may already know he is being downsized for another reason or he wants wotc to fire him to escape a contract he can't shake.

3. i bet there are a few groups that cross those sorta lines.

4 . a lot of pervs will love this...like me
 

*slaps forehead*

BOOK OF EROTIC FANTASY = OPTIONAL PURCHASE!

If you don't want to include it in your game, don't buy the book and leave the rest of us alone.:rolleyes: I'll probably give this thing a looksee and if I think it makes sense, I'll pick it up. I won't use it anytime now, at least until I find a more mature gaming group. I think a very powerful but little touched-on force in the game world(and any world for that matter) is love&romance. Sure, most of that can be dealt with through good role-play, but eventually things start to get intimate, and that's where this book comes in. If it's anything like the GUCK (which is VERY useful on SO many levels), it's a must-buy. (Rules for pregnancy, birth, and child write-up come in very handy.)

A lot of people have to realize that simple because there can be sexuality in the game does not mean the game becomes a porn-fest.
 

WanderingMonster said:
A few one-liners that spring to mind:

* I guess now we'll have to redefine "hardcore gaming".

* This whole venture must put WotC between a rock and a hard place!

* Now adventurers will actually have a use for the 10' pole.

* Will this game require a DM or an S/M, I wonder?

* Wood Elves.

You forgot the new Feat - Erotic Weapon Proficiency... :p
 



Eh? People who publish d20 products using the OGL are parasites and opportunists? Isn't that what it's there for? Kindly elaborate.
No, that's not what I mean, and you know it. I don't think I have to elaborate, given the theme of the product that this thread is all about. Have a bit of a think about what I might mean given that context.
He.
and Margaret Weis should be convicted for crimes against sword and sorcery.
Yeah, good one mate, keep blowing that hot air. Pretend that Dragonlance did nothing for the development of D&D. Pretend that Ravenloft did nothing, Desert of Desolation did nothing, Rahasia did nothing.
Newsflash: erotic fantasy was around before they picked up a pen. Those two played more than a small part in the gelding of the fantasy genre, turning badass barbarians into elven princesses. And they think there's onus upon everyone who comes after them to respect that? Well, I see a lot of other indignant folks in this thread seem to think so.
D&D has it's roots in pulp swords & sorcery fantasy, but I don't associate it with Gor-like themes, and when it's atmosphere is attached to such bollocks, there's no way back. It's a one-way street.
If I must choose between a genre that's "tainted" with mature content and one that's sterilized with tame, PG-rated pap, I'll take the former thank you very much.
It's not mature content, it's about nekkid elves. It's lame content, IMO.
 
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fusangite said:
Bendris and Felon seem to have the idea that because fantasy literature contains sex, fantasy games should contain sex.
Indeed, sir, you are mistaken. I do not indicate at all that RPGs should contain sex. My stance is that they can and that material related to such shouldn't be condemned as "elvish porn" by those that think they shouldn't. Too often such condemnation is more telling of the individual's lack of knowledge or willingness to accept that other people have different tastes than of the product itself.

After all, I am by far more of a fan of Lord of the Rings than I am of Corben's Den, but I wouldn't look down at someone playing a D&D game in the later's highly eroticised setting. At the same time, taking the two into account, I'd be more open about who I played a LotR-centric game with than I would one based on Den, the reason being that I can anticipate a younger group understanding and participating in the spirit of Middle Earth while I would have more stringent requirements about who I played a Den-centric game with due to the themes present in the setting.
 

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