Far Realms poll

Would you but a "Far Realms" sourcebook?

  • Yes, absolutely without question

    Votes: 72 24.4%
  • Yes, but only if it was value for money and had good content

    Votes: 139 47.1%
  • I would download a free supplement, but not pay for it

    Votes: 17 5.8%
  • No, the Far Realms just doesn't interest me enough

    Votes: 36 12.2%
  • What are the Far Realms?

    Votes: 31 10.5%


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From a publisher's perspective I wouldn't bank too heavily on this idea. I "anchored" an issue of Dragon (#330) with a huge Far Realms article by Bruce Cordell, and the issue was one of the worst sellers since the 323 "relaunch". I'm not saying it was the article's fault (that issue's cover was... unfortunate), but it didn't have nearly the drawing power I expected it to.

FYI.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing, LLC
 

Erik Mona said:
From a publisher's perspective I wouldn't bank too heavily on this idea. I "anchored" an issue of Dragon (#330) with a huge Far Realms article by Bruce Cordell, and the issue was one of the worst sellers since the 323 "relaunch". I'm not saying it was the article's fault (that issue's cover was... unfortunate), but it didn't have nearly the drawing power I expected it to.

FYI.

--Erik Mona
Publisher
Paizo Publishing, LLC

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but I just don't see what the draw is for Bruce Cordell that everyone goes ga-ga - I've never found anything of his to be a "WOW!" moment for me. His work is solid, and I enjoy it, but it doesn't have the wow factor for me.

Perhaps I'm just too demanding, but I've never really found *any* of the 3.x stuff to be 100% solid. With the exception of the Forgotten Realms stuff, I tend to find myself looking at every WotC title and weighing how much of the book is worth a purchase - I ignored Spell Compendium and looked at Complete Mage and put it back on the shelf within 5 minutes, but Power of Faerun had me reading the book on the way up to the store checkout.

I *do* tend to really enjoy non-official stuff (hint - keep Krash busy... His stuff on the Candlekeep site is great, and his article on Impiltur is a good start - we need more. I also liked the article on The Hordelands - keep 'em coming... Another hint - take a look at Jerry Davis's efforts on Cormyr's military - his stuff warrants an expansion and being published in Dragon.)

Ok - sorry to go off topic. I prefer my Far Realms to be heavily influenced by Lovecraftian elements. Perhaps Chaosium doesn't want to do d20. Ok. I'd rather buy a Far Realms book from them statted for CoC and make d20 stats, than buy a WotC book that spend way too much space on spells, feats, and prestige classes, and nowhere near enough time on the Far Realms and their denizens. One interesting thing - the one solid part of the ELH was the monsters section - plenty of those abominations would fit perfcectly in the Far Realms.

Actually, Necromancer, Goodman, or Green Ronin might be able to do a really good job of it, with d20 stats already there.
 

EyeontheMountain said:
No, I don't play Cthulhu. I play D&D.

Fixed it for ya. :)

H.P. Lovecraft and Robert E. Howard (the creators of Cthulhu and Conan, respectively) knew each other and did many crossovers in their writing. The Dreamlands Cycle, which was written by HPL, has strong fantasy overtones to it as well. Michael Moorcock had strong elements of Chaos in his writings, and that's basically what the Far Realm is--Chaos done right (IMO, at least).

The early settings for the game (Blackmoor, Greyhawk) had more of a Pulp Fantasy feel to them than a Tolkienesque feel--just look at Greyhawk's Tharizdun. There's a Lovecraftian god if I've ever seen one, and he plays a prominent role in several classic adventures.

The point is that the Cthulhu Mythos and Pulp Fantasy (what most people call "sword and sorcery" fantasy) are close cousins in the literary family, and so Cthulhu and D&D aren't as incompatible as you might think. Such things may not jive in your particular campaign setting, of course, but that doesn't mean that the two are mutually exclusive.
 

Erik Mona said:
From a publisher's perspective I wouldn't bank too heavily on this idea. I "anchored" an issue of Dragon (#330) with a huge Far Realms article by Bruce Cordell, and the issue was one of the worst sellers since the 323 "relaunch". I'm not saying it was the article's fault (that issue's cover was... unfortunate), but it didn't have nearly the drawing power I expected it to.

For real? I just don't get it. That was one of my favorite issues (it even had new warlock invocations by Keith Baker). Halloween issue if I remember correctly, and it, along with last year's Halloween issue with the rajahs, are probably my 2 ALL-TIME favorite issues. ::sigh::

It even had a rockin mind-flayer feasting on brains for a cover! Maybe it is the chartreuse background that drives people away. ;P
 

Erik Mona said:
From a publisher's perspective I wouldn't bank too heavily on this idea. I "anchored" an issue of Dragon (#330) with a huge Far Realms article by Bruce Cordell, and the issue was one of the worst sellers since the 323 "relaunch".

Well, that is depressing news. I immediatedly started using that issue in my game. Though it was an April issue and I usually consider those 'fun' issues as opposed to useful, the Far Realm and Volume Venficus (Snake Spells) were solid hits for me. :(
 

I loved the Far Realm article in issue 330 and was eagerly looking forward to more. However, the cover of that issue didn't do it for me. I miss the days of the hand painted covers. Computer generated art just doesn't really do it for me much of the time (my personal preference - not meant as an attack).

Back to the topic. Yes, I'd love to see WotC put out a Far Realm book. I'd buy it in a haertbeat. I would like to see them release more planar stuff in general (I am liking the direction they are taking with Fiendish Codex). More please :D !
 

rycanada said:
Yep. I'd but it. I'd but it all over the place.
:confused: :cool:

Just curious, has anyone here read the Cthulhu/Tara Khash novels by Brian Lumley? I find them to be a great blending of Cthulhu mythos and a fantasy setting.
 
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Thurbane said:
Just curious, has anyone here read the Cthulhu/Tara Khash novels by Brian Lumley? I find them to be a great blending of Cthulhu mythos and a fantasy setting.

Brian Lumley should stick to writing average novels about vampire slugs with ESP and avoid, for the sake of my eyes, any further raping of Lovecraft's corpse. But that's just my opinion :)
 

Shemeska said:
Brian Lumley should stick to writing average novels about vampire slugs with ESP and avoid, for the sake of my eyes, any further raping of Lovecraft's corpse. But that's just my opinion :)
Ouch! :eek:

I can appreciate that he isn't everyone's cup of tea, but that's a little...extreme, no?

Lovecraft actively encouraged other authors (notably Clark Ashton Smith and Robert E Howard) to use his characters and concepts in their own works to create the illusion of a "real" mythos that spanned the works of multiple writers. I think he would probably approve of Lumley's usage of his characters, not to mention the numerous other modern authors who borrow from and contribute to the mythos.
 

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