Farewell to thee D&D

[MrGrenadine]

Wow. Astonishing that, despite all the disclaimers, people still feel they have to let the OP know that they disagree. Some of them in an insulting or dismissive way, even.

News flash, folks--he doesn't like a game that you like. That doesn't mean he thinks you're a bad person, or that he thinks you should agree with him, or that he thinks you should stop doing what *you* like. Its not really about you at all. Sheesh.


I, for one, have also been playing for twenty-some years, and would like to commiserate. I really like some of the advances in 4e, but I think things like Encounter/ Daily martial powers and minions are just awful ideas, and run counter to what I want out of the game. And its a little upsetting, but with all the 3.5 adventures out there that I haven't played, and especially with Pathfinder on the horizon, everything is aces.

Now I'm playing in a 3.5 game, a Pathfinder game, and yes, a 4e game, too. 3.5 is familiar and fun, and I love Pathfinder--they have the great depth and the huge range of options that just equal D&D to me. And 4e--like I said, I like some of the rules, and the combats are fun and quick and dirty, (like playing D&D Lite). I just grumble at the dearth of abilities, and the homogenous feel of the abilities/spells, and I grit my teeth when minions show up. And I hope in time, with some added options, some 3pp support, and some (more) errata, it'll become a system that I really like.

Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you'll be back, eventually, when 4e ripens a bit. But until then, maybe I'll run into you on the Paizo boards!

 

[Jhaelen]

Oh my, this is clearly another low point on these boards. This is almost _exactly_ like one of those fake daily 'talk shows' *shudder*

I'll just sneak out and use the neat 'ingore thread' feature Mustrum_Ridcully recently pointed out to me. Then I can pretend, I've never seen it

 

[Kunimatyu]

You should listen to Mike Mearls' recent podcast.

 

[Keith Robinson]

I must admit, I don't get it either. Just because you don't like 4ed doesn't mean you should quit playing the version you do like.

I'll be playing 3.5 for a good while yet, and so will many other people. Just because we're not moving over to a new edition doesn't mean we should all just throw in the towel and quit.

 

[billd91]

I think this is the biggest cause of your frustration and not so much the lack of new material. You can't enjoy gaming with friends that you have been hanging out with for 10+ years because of a new ruleset? I'm not very happy with 4E myself but a friend is running it and I am playing. Ultimately its spending time with friends thats really important and not so much the rules. I won't run 4E but that doesn't stop me from playing. Do you hang out with your friends outside of the game?

It may be that spending time with friends is more important, but why would you want to spend time with friends doing something you don't like to do? There are games I'm not interested in playing (WoD) and not playing them doesn't affect my friendships.
But it would be a tremendous drag to have the game night you have participated in for years shift to games you don't like.

 

[The Little Raven]

Astonishing that, despite all the disclaimers, people still feel they have to let the OP know that they disagree.

I find it more astonishing that someone would come onto a discussion forum and post yet another "I feel the need to tell you all that I'm parting ways with D&D because of 4e" thread with the disclaimer that he only wants yes-men responding to it. The internet is a horrible place to post your opinion when you want no dissenting responses, and a discussion forum is the absolute worst place to do that.

I also find it astonishing that people think that saying "I've been playing D&D for X years" means something significant. The amount of time you've spent in a hobby does nothing to make your opinions any more or less valid than anyone else. It strikes me as pretentious, just like those music fans that claim they're so much cooler because they only listen to a band's poorly produced garage demos, y'know from before they sold out.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

I'd like to say how amazed I am that a very long, intelligent post got nothing but flames and insults in response. Or how surprised I am. How shocking it is.

But all of those would be a lie.

This thread is why edition wars started; NOT because of the OP, but because of the string of people that came along to say "You don't like 4e? Your opinion wrong, and you should leave the forums." No matter how many other intelligent posts he's had - and he's had a lot - no matter how long he's been here - a fairly long while - and no matter how much he did to TRY and enjoy 4e...because he didn't like it, he's told that he's no longer welcomed at these forums.

I CAN honestly say how amazed, shocked, and surprised I am at how utterly disgusting this thread has become.

 

[BlackMoria]

Celtavian: I understand fully. I too feel, much as you do. As do most of my group. You are not alone in your feelings. I feel that 4E took the game in a different direction than what I prefer.

Do take an opportunity to check out Paizo's Pathfinder line of products. You may find it more to your liking.

 

[scruffygrognard]

*shrug* It roughly equates to the same if I don't get a bad series of rolls. So be it.

Like I said, I'm not looking for argument. I'm looking for some people who might feel as I do.

I get where you're coming from. As a long-time player of D&D (somewhere around 25 years) I have ALWAYS looked forward to the next iteration of the game, waiting to see what advancements would be made and how the game would be improved.

This time around I was saddened to see a game release that didn't "do it" for me. I've played it a few times but have no love for it. That's a first for me and it really bummed me out.

Luckily I have Castles and Crusades and 3rd Edition Dungeons and Dragons to tide me over until the next version of D&D comes along. Whether that happens to be Pathfinder or not remains to be seen...

Game on!

 

[Particle_Man]

btw, if you want POWERFUL high level wizards, I strongly recommend Castles and Crusades. The saving throws against their spells are based on wizard level (as opposed to spell level) and there are no damage caps on spells). Plus, high level PC and monster hit points are lower than in 3e. So a 20th level wizard casting that fireball means . . . yeah.