Farscape (No Spoilers)

Felon said:
But yeah, the magnitude of awfulness is pretty severe in Farscape. People don't always make the right decision. Actions have consequences that aren't fixed within 60 minutes.

Its more then just that, they never catch a break. 3+ years I've watched and nothing. It wears on me. I don't see what people keep trying to compaire it to trek or B5, it isn't like those shows. The closest thing I can see to Farscape is actually Thieves World. But I'd think by now Farscape doesn't need to be compaired to anything, it is its own thing.
 

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Crothian said:
Its more then just that, they never catch a break. 3+ years I've watched and nothing. It wears on me. I don't see what people keep trying to compaire it to trek or B5, it isn't like those shows. The closest thing I can see to Farscape is actually Thieves World. But I'd think by now Farscape doesn't need to be compaired to anything, it is its own thing.

Have you tried the warm damp enviroment yet? It worked for a number of people I know.
 

Crothian said:
Its more then just that, they never catch a break. 3+ years I've watched and nothing. It wears on me. I don't see what people keep trying to compaire it to trek or B5, it isn't like those shows. The closest thing I can see to Farscape is actually Thieves World. But I'd think by now Farscape doesn't need to be compaired to anything, it is its own thing.

I agree; it's its own seperate being. I think that's why it was is so popular; it was new and fresh. I think BSG is similar in that it goes against the standard set for Sci-Fi shows by Star Trek and its ilk.
 


Felon said:
For all the raves about its non-trekkiness, it was still crypto-fascist science fiction. The B5 crew were still cops, still loyal soldiers following a chain of command.

Yeah, loyal and following the chain of command. Which is why season three turned out like it did. And they sure followed the orders of the Vorlons right down the line too. Did you even watch the series?
 
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Felon said:
Funny, that's how I felt about Babylon 5. Cheap costumes, cheap sets, cheap characters with broad cliche personalities, trite dialogue, and by-the-numbers resolutions to each week's plot. It was Monet science-fiction; stepping back to look at the entire elephantine overarching mega-plot, it looks grand. When looking at individual episodes, however, 9 out of 10 were pretty bland.

For all the raves about its non-trekkiness, it was still crypto-fascist science fiction. The B5 crew were still cops, still loyal soldiers following a chain of command. Farscape's cast was a bunch of misfit fugitives on the run from the authorities. They weren't out to protect the universe--no puerile confrontation scenes with posturing characters saying "go to hell" or "get off my damn ___" with a dramatic pause so the fanboys watching at home can hoot and holler at this wanton use of mild swearing. And nobody casually accepted that anyone else was the boss of them. When they finally do decide to pick a captain for Moya, the human doesn't even win. Now that's rebellious non-trekkiness.

I guess crypto-fascist sci-fi must be what people want though, because Farscape's gone and SG1 is here to stay.

Crypto-Fascist? Are you living out in a cabin in montana some place and basing your descriptions of B5 off of a "Telephone" game description? How does starting a rebellion over a fascist crackdown, gathering multiple races into a democratic alliance to fight both of the elder races especially the "Order at Any Cost" Vorlons and then turning your self over to the restored democratic authorities for judgement over your leading the rebellion qualify as Crypto-Fascist?

Is there some particular reason you feel the need to put down other people's favorite shows in defending Farscape?
 

Rackhir said:
Is there some particular reason you feel the need to put down other people's favorite shows in defending Farscape?

Is there any reason to get this worked up because someone disagrees with you about a television program?
 

reveal said:
Is there any reason to get this worked up because someone disagrees with you about a television program?

If they basically call it a pro-nazi show, yes I consider that sufficient reason to get annoyed with them. Especially when that's almost exactly the opposite of what the series is about.
 

Rackhir said:
If they basically call it a pro-nazi show, yes I consider that sufficient reason to get annoyed with them. Especially when that's almost exactly the opposite of what the series is about.

Crypto-fascist and pro-nazi are not necessarily the same thing. Naziism was a form of fascism. Crypto-fascist could be in reference to Clerical fascism for all you know.

Whether or not you like the show is no reason to insult the author of the post, in this case Felon. You want to disprove his theory? Then give reasons and logic to support your theory. Don't resort to name calling and insults because that just makes you look like a raving fanboy.
 

reveal said:
You want to disprove his theory? Then give reasons and logic to support your theory.

Umm, he did. Did you not read his post in which he went over some of the primary elements of the show, and how they are the exact opposite of what Felon said the show was about?
 

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