Magus_Jerel said:
supernatural Ability(Su): A "magical power" that produces a particular effect, as opposed to a natural, extraordinary, or spell like ability. Using a supernatural ability does not necessarily provoke an AoO. Supernatural abilities are not subject to dispelling, disruption or SR, but do not function in AMF or similar areas.
spell: A one time magical effect. The primary categories are arcane and divine.
Uhm.... so?
Now... given that you have to swallow the definition of spell:
Note on definition of spell - it does NOT say that the only categories of spell are arcane and divine.
Psionic "manifestations" are therefore also be considered spells in the strictest sense of the word.
Great, except that they're explicitly defined as _spell-like_ abilities.
"one time magical effects" - useable at will or otherwise - are considered "spells".
Even if they're not. Right.
If the ability is both supernatural and CONTINUOUS - different matter, but we are concerned about wether or not something can ... teleport? - yes?
The point of "one time magical effect" is that _casting_ a spell is a one time effect. A spell is cast, and produces an effect, which may then be instantaneous or continuing. Other than that, I'm not sure why you're bothering to post all these superfluous definitions.
Just because spells are one-time magical effects doesn't rule out other special abilities also being one-time magical effects; in fact, given that spell-like abilities are defined to mimc spells (hence the name, duh) it's quite clear that spells are not the only possible "one-time magical effects". I suppose things like energy drain, ability drain and other such instantaneous supernatural abilities would also count as "spells" by your definition, but hey, if you want to dig yourself a deeper hole, that's your prerogative.
Now - I would say that this "ability" to teleport is a one time magical effect, and therefore not allowed... but - since you want exact chapter and verse...
Marilith's SLA's:
at will - (several powers listed) THESE ABILITIES ARE AS THE SPELL CAST BY A !3TH LEVEL SORCERER.
Exactly. They're spell-like abilities that have effects that emulate certain spells. This doesn't change the fact that they're _defined_ as spell-like abilities, not spells.
Feeblemind:
The creature can't cast spells.
Any questions?
Yes. Did you think all this up on your own, or were pharmaceuticals involved?
Note - you will find the "as the spell cast by" wording on nearly all SLA's - matter of fact... I don't know of one that you won't find it on.... kinda need it that way to BE a SLA.
I'm not sure exactly how to respond to this demonstration of non-Euclidean logic, except to say that you really need to stop looking through those ancient texts with skulls and human skin bindings. So far, you've done nothing except quote a bunch of irrelevant stuff from the PHB glossary, which doesn't support any ludicrous notion of spells and spell-like abilities being identical.
By the way hong - if you want to attack the definitions and change them - you can't - if you do, you are breaking the defined game terms... and in breach of D20 license
Please stop. You're making my head hurt, and then _I'll_ need pharmaceuticals. Believe me, you don't want that.