Festival of Halina (Orsal Judging)

[LogicsFate]

"Wow, the man asks and the woman chooses to accept? That is quite the opposite of the way they do it back home..."

Elise giggles "Perhaps it would be more appropriate to have it so anyone could ask"

 

[Rystil Arden]

"Well...In a sense, the man can ask the woman to lay the marriage wreath at his feet, so he could ask first, but the official decision to ask comes from the woman."

 

[Bront]

The Mayor returns with an odd expression "Well, um, I don't think Hellen will be able to watch over Daphnie, she appears to be... busy... I'll just have to ask for a guard escort for her as well. Draven, Uri, could you both watch my girl?"

One of the guards steps up "Of course sir."

"Good, escort her home and make sure she stays there for the time being."

The guards escort a reluctant Daphnie out to the mayor's house. As she leaves you hear her trailing off "Ooh, I'll need a dress, and hopefully Sunny will get me a nice ring, and then we have to plan the honeymoon..." Sunny goes a bit pale hearing some of this.

 

[El Jefe]

The mayor pulls Daphnie off Sunny again. "I think we'll need an escort for Daphnie as well. Perhaps Hellen will watch over her..."

OOC: But won't that cramp Fang's, er Helen's style?

OOC #2: If Fang gets into the same trouble with Daphne that Sunny did, I'm not bailing his furry butt out!

 

[Bront]

OOC: But won't that cramp Fang's, er Helen's style?

OOC #2: If Fang gets into the same trouble with Daphne that Sunny did, I'm not bailing his furry butt out!

OOC: I was waiting for you to say that IC, LOL, but decided the Mayor would check it out himself (See my above post)

 

[Rystil Arden]

OOC #2: If Fang gets into the same trouble with Daphne that Sunny did, I'm not bailing his furry butt out!

(OOC: Do you mean Fang and Hellen or Fang and Daphnie? )

 

[El Jefe]

OOC:[sblock]

Based on the US GNP, a 2,000 gp fine for these guys would be equivalent to a 2 million dollar fine for us today.

So, what happens in the US today when some drug lord gets his fortune confiscated, becomes indigent, and is ordered to pay a $2 million fine? Happens all the time.

Well, there's always some beggar who can't pay anything, and he would have to work for 5 years to pay off the 200 GP fine, which is reasonable in my opinion. Maybe even a 500 GP fine would work too. But when you have a fine where the vast majority of people (the entire peasant class) can't hope to pay, and where they'd have to work their whole life to pay it off, then oyu have a problem

But historically, wasn't the solution to problems like that just to condemn criminals to slavery for life? The criminals weren't too crazy about that, but pulling an oar in a galley sure beat a swing and a dance from a short rope. And if you don't think Covington is that harsh, they could be "merciful" and declare some maximum term of servitude for such a crime, set to however long you think is reasonable.

Really, my point is that "jail and hard labor" is an alternative to paying the fine, not merely a different means for getting the fine paid.[/SBLOCK]

 

[El Jefe]

(OOC: Do you mean Fang and Hellen or Fang and Daphnie? )

OOC: A "nice pooper" by any other name would, uh, I better stop now.

 

[Rystil Arden]

(OOC:[SBLOCK]

So, what happens in the US today when some drug lord gets his fortune confiscated, becomes indigent, and is ordered to pay a $2 million fine? Happens all the time.

There's a big difference between someone amassing an illegal fortune and a tryst with an underage girl. For one thing, they have an illegal fortune to confiscate. You don't fine 2 million dollars from the drug lord's impoverished servant Pablo.

Really, my point is that "jail and hard labor" is an alternative to paying the fine, not merely a different means for getting the fine paid.

If the jail and hard labour doesn't even add up to as much value as the fine, then they're really being foolish--the fine provides immediate unconditional cash without having to deal with surveilance and upkeep of a prisoner. Ideally, you want them to pick the fine. If you've set it up so that almost nobody is allowed to pick the fine because the labour is for much less time than the price of the fine is worth, you're doing yourself and the girl a disservice--you might as well lower the fine to equal the value of the labour.
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[El Jefe]

As she leaves you hear her trailing off "Ooh, I'll need a dress, and hopefully Sunny will get me a nice ring, and then we have to plan the honeymoon..." Sunny goes a bit pale hearing some of this.

What a relief! If that was what Sunny truly wanted, this day couldn't have turned out much better. Oirhandir had begun to despair that he would be able to see Scarlet today, but with such a prompt resolution of the matter at hand, his mood brightened considerably.

"Congratulations, lad!", the elf said, patting Sunny on the shoulder as the young man's hands were being released. He immediately felt a little self-conscious at his choice of words. Although Oirhandir was older than any human he'd ever met, he was about the same age as Sunny when the differences between their races was taken into account. "A lovely woman who's heart is truly yours, and the blessings of Halina on your union as well!" Oirhandir hoped his words were true, as his mind still reeled at the prospect of consenting to marriage with a person you'd only known for three days. Still, that was a matter for Sunny and Daphne to work out, and he could only wish them well.

Lowering his voice, he continued: "Hey, if Ingus can't fix you up with a ring, Fang and I met an honest jeweler in the north fields, a gnome by the name of Prompindel. Let me know if you need anything."