Festival of Halina (Orsal Judging)

[LogicsFate]

OOC:[sblock] Ok so it comes down to our characters wanting a fair cut, fine by me. Though I know Elise wouldn't notice, she be happy with the gold givin to her. Rystil has already said Lasair doesn't care about the gold. So now we need Sunny/One, Fang/Kishwa to chime in then we can move on? And bront would you add in the waterskins to the sell pile? I know they wont go for much but they are weighing me down and nobody wants them. Though I could try and sell them at the RDI trading post that would be funny.[/sblock]

Elise recieves her gold graciously "Thankyou" pausing to dream up what it could buy her, and how far it'd go to learning new spells "Is there anywhere on the wagons I could stow my things? I feel silly, carring my cross bow everywhere"

 

[Bront]

Ingus replies to Elise "Well, your tent is your domain, and I'm here durring the day to make sure no one else meddles with it"

OOC: I did remove that from the tracking post. I didn't mean to add the confusion, more to give you all a bit more to spend (What fun is a festival without money to spend?) as well as help things allong, assuming you'd just hand everything over, since no one made a big deal of Sunny grabbing the crossbow and bolts earlier. I did the math depending on how you want to split everything earlier simply to help so you didn't have to. I'll let you all tell me what you want to split. I never imagined it'd be such an issue, but I think you can all resovle it fairly quickly. You have time before the new day and the start of the festival.

OOC2: Ingus will take them off your hands, but he'd hope you'd just give them up. He can use the extra water to carry in the wagons. You can probably get 4 silvers for them each at the festival if you try. 2 gold if you sell all 5.

 

[LogicsFate]

Ingus replies to Elise "Well, your tent is your domain, and I'm here durring the day to make sure no one else meddles with it"

OOC2: Ingus will take them off your hands, but he'd hope you'd just give them up. He can use the extra water to carry in the wagons. You can probably get 4 silvers for them each at the festival if you try. 2 gold if you sell all 5.

"Thankyou"

OOC: yeah just hand em over

 

[GnomeWorks]

Troi accepts the coinage presented him. "Thanks." He proceeds to deposit his share into his pouch.

 

[Rystil Arden]

I never imagined it'd be such an issue, but I think you can all resovle it fairly quickly.

(OOC: I'm sorry if I caused an issue here where there shouldn't be one--its just important to me that I know for sure that we are not running it that way, as the way we have been doing it is more in line with what Lasair knows and expects.

Specifically, Lasair wouldn't care if she gets any of the gold at all, but if she finds psionic items (be it 0 gp worth in the whole adventure or 20,000 gp worth) she would expect to be allowed to keep them, as we have done so far with items people have wanted--it would probably require a precedent set now by the other characters about splitting down to the exact gp value to convince her otherwise. Anyways, Lasair and I are both quite happy to let Oirhandir have the masterwork chain shirt and take a full share of the gold as well )

 

[two]

{I think the best way to divvy up loot and such, and the only fair way, is to deduct the cost of equipment taken by a PC from what they are given in cold, hard cash.

For example, if we stumble upon a +2 flail worth roughly 8K/2 = 4K gold on the open market, we should sell it.

Or, if a party member wants to take the flail instead of a share of the treasure, that's ok. They can take the flail, but then "owe" the party 4K gold. (or this is deducted from the gold given if there is enough).

This is only the fair way to do things. Some classes simply have to spend money on specific items, creating or buying them; things are never sitting around for them to pick up.

So, if the chain shirt is taken by a PC instead of sold, the PC should get a less cut of the overall party take (by the value the chain shirt could have brought if sold, that is, what? 150 gold? something like that? 100?

BTW I very much don't like roleplaying shopping/loot distribution, that's why I've not been posting much. I'd personally prefer we divvy everything up equally out of character, then proceed in character with more fun stuff.}

 

[Bront]

OOC: Technicaly, half price selling would have been 125. Ingus just gets a better deal, as I said earlier. No problems on the creating an issue.

 

[El Jefe]

BTW I very much don't like roleplaying shopping/loot distribution, that's why I've not been posting much. I'd personally prefer we divvy everything up equally out of character, then proceed in character with more fun stuff.}

In war, everything is simple, but the simplest thing can be very difficult.

OOC:[sblock]In war, that is, and treasure distribution. First and foremost, I'm here to have fun and presume everybody else is, too. two, I'm frustrated that you don't want to do this in-character. For me, that is a simple and elegant solution to the problem. Looking over the posts thus far, I believe we have:

3 players and characters who really don't care about the details of how loot is distributed,
1 player who wants to let his character decide the issue; that character thinks that he should get a smaller share for the sake of fairness but will accept an equal share if the other party members prefer it,
1 player who doesn't want his character to decide and thinks that uneven shares are the most fair,
and 1 player/character who is so far absent from the discussion.[/sblock]Oirhandir tossed the bag of gold that Ingus had given him onto the table. To everyone in general and no one in particular, he requested, "Make sure that is divided fairly as well." The elf hadn't tried to calculate what his share should be, or even if he should get a share given his claim on Phineus's old mail, but trusted his mates to do what was best.

 

[Rystil Arden]

(OOC: Two--if you want it to be split by taking away gold from characters who received items, then you're really going to have to explain it in character to Lasair. At this point, she isn't really expecting any gold (though if given a share, she'll take it so she can use it to help others like Elise who needed more money), and she does not expect Oirhandir or Sunny to take a smaller share for taking an item. To convince her otherwise requires explaining a concept foreign to her. Like El Jefe, I would like to have discussion in characterunless we just go with Bront's original divisions.

"So why did you even bring anything up if you just wanted to stay with the initial split?" you might ask. Well, first, I knew there might be some people who didn't want to do this and didn't check the boards often enough to see it before it was too late. But more importantly, I need to make sure that we are on the same page now because if, by some remote possibility, Lasair gets an expensive item later and then I bring up her views of splitting, it makes me look like I'm being greedy )

 

[two]

Sunny states:

"Ok, here's my 30 gold for the crossbow and bolts I already took, they are worth about that," and plops it down on the table where this thing is happening, "now I'm all fair and square with the group."

"Oirhander, since you are taking that nice armor we as the group could have sold, you owe the group some. I don't need the money now, but we should probably get your share figured out at some point. It's worth about 200 or so, so if you just want to owe the group 200 to be reckened out later that's fine by me.

Er, sorry, I mean, here is the 24 gold. The 6 I keep, after all, 1/5 of the crossbow was mine before I took the whole thing."

We ain't gonna know how much stuff is worth until we appraise it/get it sold. For all we knew, that armor could have been the 'Secret Armor of Jumpin' Jenny" and worth 50K gold to some schmuck off the street. We can't just go claiming stuff let and right. If something is worth 300 gold, we each get 1/5 of it. If it's worth 50K gold, we each get 1/5 of it. Fair is fair, and easy too.