FFG Legendary Class contest submissions

[Ruavel]

Originally posted by kingpaul
Well, I got my Path of Faith review done.

Thanks for letting us know that your review was up, kingpaul...

I got a phone call yesterday saying that my copy of Path of Magic has finally arrived... I guess now that I've had a read of your review, I'll have to see how long it takes my game store to get Path of Faith & even Path of the Shadow in for me...

 

[blackshirt5]

BUMP-DOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Khur]

Paul,

I need to know what the following things are and from where they come on Thunderer: Private Field and Quiet Step. If these items are from OGC, then they can be reprinted and should be. I also can't figure out why Thunderer flies.

I made up Kaob's items as full-fledged, fully-statted magic weapons and armor. I'll send them to you if you like. I also gave Kaob's wife a unique item (bringing her equipment up to the value of that of a typical NPC of her level).

I'll take partial credit for writing Kaob's items. Cool?

I also want to know why all of the items in your OGL are there. Did you use all of these things in writing Kaob?

Finally, did you send me the skill calculations for Melidia? If not, can you?

Thanks.

 

[kingpaul]

I need to know what the following things are and from where they come on Thunderer: Private Field and Quiet Step. If these items are from OGC, then they can be reprinted and should be. I also can't figure out why Thunderer flies.

Those 3 items come from the last chapter in Path of Faith. It lists how a Paladin or Black Guard can alter their special mounts by expending XP.

I made up Kaob's items as full-fledged, fully-statted magic weapons and armor. I'll send them to you if you like. I also gave Kaob's wife a unique item (bringing her equipment up to the value of that of a typical NPC of her level).

Yes, I'd like that.

I'll take partial credit for writing Kaob's items. Cool?

That's fine

I also want to know why all of the items in your OGL are there. Did you use all of these things in writing Kaob?

I copied the S15 of the items I used (Path of Sword, Path of Faith and Book of Hallowed Might). Those books included other items in their S15, and, by the license, you have to copy all items in the S15 of used material. The only exception, and its an understood one, is that the word exact from the license doesn't mean that you have to include redundant entries (multiple instances of the SRD and OGL).

Finally, did you send me the skill calculations for Melidia? If not, can you?

I honestly don't know if I still have that any more. Let me look around.

 

[Khur]

Thanks Paul!

I got Path of Faith yesterday, so I'll look up what you're talking about for Thunderer. It sounds pretty sweet.

I've sent you the new items and I want you to feel free to tell me anything you feel about them. I also included a special note in Kaob, which is also attached to my email, not only make sure we cover our bases for Monte's generosity, but also to make the benefits of the dedicated paladin interpretable by those who don't possess the Book of Hallowed Might. (I picked that up yesterday as well.) I'll also note the Path of Faith references. Let me know what you think there too.

I really appreciate your including all of this OGC from various sources. It really shows how something can gain flavor through such a broad palette of material. Good job! (I also appreciate the help on the OGL.)

I think I can figure out Kaob's wife if you can't find her math quickly and easily. No sweat.



EDIT: Greg Benage, Managing Developer at FFG has said we may reference the parts of Path of Faith relevant to Thunderer! (We just have to include the typical copyright disclaimer.) Cool huh?

Further, Greg is going to go over our little PDF before we distribute it, just to help us out. Nice!

 

[Khur]

Rauvel,

I was going to email this to you, but I cannot find your address. You'll notice I didn't change Wade Braddock's attack progression with Longshot when you see the PDF. Here's why:

You sent the math for his progression like so:
Ranged: Longshot +17/+12/+7/+2 (BAB) +6 (Dex) +1 (weapon focus) +3 (weapon enhancement) = +24/+19/+14/+9.

You missed some things:

17 (BAB) + 6 (Dex) + 1 (Weapon Focus) + 3 (weapon enhancement) = +27. Further, Wade has bracers of archery for +2 to attack rolls (since he's already proficient with the bow in question). Your original progression on the NPC of +29/+24/+19/+14 is correct! (Yes, Wade Braddock is a bad a$$ with a bow!)

The math was a HUGE help though! And don't feel bad about this. You should have seen me when I caught myself shorting some characters a whole attack!

Thanks.

 

[Ruavel]

Oringally posted by Khur
The math was a HUGE help though! And don't feel bad about this. You should have seen me when I caught myself shorting some characters a whole attack!

*sniffle*

I'll try not to feel too bad about it...

Thanks for double-double checking... must have been having the mathematical equivalent of a bad-hair day... or maybe it's just a general lack of ability... and thanks for keeping me posted...



maybe next time I'll trust my original math...

if you to email me anything at any stage use the link below...

Ruavel Naithar

 

[Khur]

Was that "Don't feel bad." thing condescending? I didn't mean it that way. Man I make mistakes all the time. It's difficult with high-power characters. At least I think so.

We all know you have the ability.

On to more editing!

 

[Ruavel]

Originally posted by Khur
Was that "Don't feel bad." thing condescending? I didn't mean it that way. Man I make mistakes all the time. It's difficult with high-power characters. At least I think so.

Sorry Khur... it wasn't condescending... I was just playing along and having a little fun... that can be difficult on a message board, given that you can't "hear" the tone or inflection of the words...

keeping track of everything for a high-level character can be quite tough... especially if it's not a character you've slowly built up, which obviously gives you more time to spot any of your own errors... to be honest, I'm surprised I didn't make a plethra of mistakes when producing Wade... pleasantly surprised, but still surprised...

anyway, back to my proposal for some freelance work...

wish me luck...

 

[kingpaul]

I got Path of Faith yesterday, so I'll look up what you're talking about for Thunderer. It sounds pretty sweet.

Alright, from the Special Mounts section (pp 165-167), Thunderer has the following (and maybe, perhaps, possibly, I did too much ):

• Alertness - grants the Alertness feat
• Detection - detect evil
• Flying (wingless) - can fly 50' (good)
• Lightning Speed - grants the Improved Initiative feat
• Private Field - a pocket dimension that looks like a field that the mount can go to 1/day
• Quite Step - +10 to Move Silently checks (this should be in the SQ section, not the SA)
• Stamina - grants the Endurance feat

I've sent you the new items and I want you to feel free to tell me anything you feel about them. I also included a special note in Kaob, which is also attached to my email, not only make sure we cover our bases for Monte's generosity, but also to make the benefits of the dedicated paladin interpretable by those who don't possess the Book of Hallowed Might. (I picked that up yesterday as well.) I'll also note the Path of Faith references. Let me know what you think there too.

I got the new items...they were freakin' cool! I wasn't sure what to do with the item write-ups; thank you. While I noticed you've changed what the items did with my original write-up, I don't have a problem with that. I can undrestand going over-board with what you like...I do it quite often myself. Just change the appropriate sections of the stat block to take those modifications into account.

As for the Cloak of Resistance, I'm not sure what to do with it now.

I really appreciate your including all of this OGC from various sources. It really shows how something can gain flavor through such a broad palette of material. Good job! (I also appreciate the help on the OGL.)

One of favorite things with the OGL is that you can mix'n'match books to create all kinds of diverse and inventive things. I like trying to pull from as much as possible...but perhaps I go overboard.

I think I can figure out Kaob's wife if you can't find her math quickly and easily. No sweat.

Well, I looked through my stuff, and I can't find my original notes anymore for her. I honestly can't remember what her starting stats were to help in the reverse-engineering.

EDIT: Greg Benage, Managing Developer at FFG has said we may reference the parts of Path of Faith relevant to Thunderer! (We just have to include the typical copyright disclaimer.) Cool huh?

Further, Greg is going to go over our little PDF before we distribute it, just to help us out. Nice!

That is awesome! Does that mean that we might get some official sanction?