Fiendish Codex II next month--Any scoop/rumors/etc.?


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I'm feeling cautiously optimistic in regard to this book. The fact that they have "real" names for the devils (instead of just "X devil") is a good sign. I also like the fact that Glasya has taken over Malbolge from The Hag Countess (aka Malagard), since I never really thought she was baatezu enough for the role. I hope there's at least a mention, however small, of Grand Duke Moloch though, since the last we saw of him (that I recall offhand) was in The Apocalypse Stone, where his final status (e.g. if he survived) was nebulous.
 

Investiture spells -- freaking brilliant! I have been looking for a D&D mechanic like this ever since I read some o-l-d WD articles on RuneQuest demons.
 

Shemeska said:
And that I suppose is a way out for the authors to avoid having to make a decision as to whether to keep that particular DL deity in the Great Wheel were she'd been since 1e, at the risk of cheesing off some DL folks who seem to have never wanted her there for the past few decades.

From a Dragonlance point of view, Takhisis and Tiamat are not the same. So Takhisis has resided in Krynn's Abyss (not to be confused with the Great Wheel Abyss) since day one (Tales of the Lance notwithstanding). Tiamat, who Takhisis was modeled after, has resided in the 1st level of the Nine Hells, as seen in H4 Throne of Bloodstone.

As for the so-called Dragonlance deities in FC 1, that is in actuality powerful entities who were so enamored with the true majesty of Dragonlance's gods that they took their names for themselves. Yeah, that's the ticket. ;)

BTW, that Hellfire Warlock looks sweet! Who did the art?
 

Dragonhelm said:
From a Dragonlance point of view, Takhisis and Tiamat are not the same. So Takhisis has resided in Krynn's Abyss (not to be confused with the Great Wheel Abyss) since day one (Tales of the Lance notwithstanding).

Although they combined her with Tiamat and moved her to the Nine Hells on day two (1E Manual of the Planes). :)
As for the so-called Dragonlance deities in FC 1, that is in actuality powerful entities who were so enamored with the true majesty of Dragonlance's gods that they took their names for themselves. Yeah, that's the ticket. ;)

Nah, they're the DL deities--just not from the DL that the novels and current game products take place on. If the xD&D cosmology can have at least two distinct Orcuses and Demogorgons (1E vs. BD&D Immortals sets), then I expect there's room for at least two different Krynns, one in the D&D multiverse and one outside it. :-)

Matthew L. Martin
 

Dragonhelm said:
From a Dragonlance point of view, Takhisis and Tiamat are not the same. So Takhisis has resided in Krynn's Abyss (not to be confused with the Great Wheel Abyss) since day one (Tales of the Lance notwithstanding). Tiamat, who Takhisis was modeled after, has resided in the 1st level of the Nine Hells, as seen in H4 Throne of Bloodstone.

As for the so-called Dragonlance deities in FC 1, that is in actuality powerful entities who were so enamored with the true majesty of Dragonlance's gods that they took their names for themselves. Yeah, that's the ticket. ;)

BTW, that Hellfire Warlock looks sweet! Who did the art?

Planescape addressed all of this I thought :) Doesn't Takhisis live in a domain called The Abyss, that exists in the middle of Baator?

Banshee
 

Dragonhelm said:
BTW, that Hellfire Warlock looks sweet! Who did the art?

Am I mistaken, or does the Hellfire Warlock do his regular eldritch blast damage, *+2d6 per hellfire warlock lvl*????

That would seem to imply that if he's a Warlock 10/Hellfire Warlock 10, by lvl 20, his blast is doing somewhere upwards of 24d6 or 25d6....but at the cost of a constitution point.

Is that true?

Banshee
 

Banshee16 said:
Planescape addressed all of this I thought :)

From Planescape's point of view, that's possible - I'm not terribly familiar with it. As far as Dragonlance is concerned, its world and cosmology exists apart from the Great Wheel, despite what any previous supplement may claim.

People who like Soth in Ravenloft have him there, people who like Takhisis == Tiamat can have that, and Chemosh can be CE and live wherever the FC says he does. DL can ignore that all it wants for its own purposes, and do what it wants with its own pantheon and cosmology. It's a great compromise.
 

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