Fighters and Goblin Tactics

[Falstaff]

Hello,

When a Fighter has a goblin marked and he misses the goblin with a melee attack the goblin's Goblin Tactics power is triggered that allows the goblin to shift 1 square.

Now, this power is an At-Will Immediate Reaction.

Does the Goblin Tactics power trigger the Fighter's Combat Challenge class power where he is allowed to make a basic attack as an immediate interrupt?

 

[Milambus]

No, you may not make immediate actions on your own turn.

 

[1of3]

Yes, it does. But only if it's not the fighter's turn and not the goblin's turn. (You can only take an Immediate Action when it's not your turn.)

Such a situation might arise when a Warlord uses appropriate powers.

 

[Kordeth]

Such a situation might arise when a Warlord uses appropriate powers.

Such a situation might arise any time the fighter is adjacent to the goblin and someone else misses the goblin with a melee attack. Warlord powers aren't even necessary.

 

[1of3]

You're right.

But the OP says that the fighter makes the initial attack. There must be some way for the fighter to make that attack outside his own turn. OAs would work, but usually the goblin would only trigger one on his turn. So either the goblin or the fighter needs some special effect that allows some kind of action outside their respective turns. (I know, I'm nitpicky.)

 

[Kordeth]

You're right.

But the OP says that the fighter makes the initial attack. There must be some way for the fighter to make that attack outside his own turn. OAs would work, but usually the goblin would only trigger one on his turn. So either the goblin or the fighter needs some special effect that allows some kind of action outside their respective turns. (I know, I'm nitpicky.)

Ah, good point, I missed that the OP specified that it was the fighter that missed the goblin, thus triggering the shift. In that specific instance you're right, it would have to be the result of something like Commander's Strike allowing the fighter to make an attack on a turn other than his or the goblins.

 

[Falstaff]

Thanks for the help everyone!

 

[Nail]

When a Fighter has a goblin marked and he misses the goblin with a melee attack the goblin's Goblin Tactics power is triggered that allows the goblin to shift 1 square.

Now, this power is an At-Will Immediate Reaction.

Does the Goblin Tactics power trigger the Fighter's Combat Challenge class power where he is allowed to make a basic attack as an immediate interrupt?

No, you may not make immediate actions on your own turn.

This is an important point, that I'll bet is lost on many people. If the Fighter misses the "marked" goblin, the goblin can shift away without getting whcked by the Fighter's Combat Challenge immediate interrupt attack.

 

[nittanytbone]

Agreed on how it works.

Although, jusy because oyu CAN shift doesn't mean that you SHOULD shift...

How would this work if the fighter readied an attack? Its technically not his turn when the readied action goes off, is it?

 

[Hypersmurf]

How would this work if the fighter readied an attack? Its technically not his turn when the readied action goes off, is it?

Since a readied action is an immediate reaction, it can't be the fighter's turn when it goes off, because he can't take immediate actions on his turn.

-Hyp.