Finally! Dungeon Tiles! But...

[Steel_Wind]

Color laser printers *have* come way down...

...unfortunately, *toner* for those printers is still insanely high.

As I said, if you get the toner carts professionally refilled, the cost is much less and - unlike refilling an ink jet - the quality is the same.

 

[Conaill]

As I said, if you get the toner carts professionally refilled, the cost is much less and - unlike refilling an ink jet - the quality is the same.

Not to mention the fact that you get a *lot* more pages out of a laser toner cartridge than out of an inkjet cartridge...

PS: As for quality of inkjet refills... yes, there is definitely a significant variability between different 3rd party vendors. But with some research and experimentation, you can usually find inks that are just as good as those of the original manufacturer. Eventually, the print head on the cartridge may give up the ghost, but typically you can count on getting 6-8 refills per cartridge, at something like 1/4 the price of a new one. (You can also buy professionally refilled cartridges - with the same issues: shop around for a quality brand!)

 

[Conaill]

(f) what are they like?
F. The tiles are punched out of the six page-sized boards, and provide double-sided floor sections that can be used as rooms, corridors, and so on. The section sizes vary to allow hallways and rooms to be built. They'll be prolific at Gen Con, as I understand.

That sounds a little better - although still overpriced.

Rackham: 15 reversible 12x12" (30x30 cm) tiles for $26 (20 Euro)
WotC: 6 reversible 8.5x11" ("page-sized"?) tiles for $10

If I understood Merric's post correctly, the WotC tiles may be of varying sizes. For example, you might have one "page-sized board" with a number of different corridors punched out. I'd guess you would have one "dungeon" and one "cave" version of each tile.


Either way, I'd much rather have a high-quality pdf version, where I can print out as many tiles as I want at a fraction of the price...

 

[TheAuldGrump]

Heh, I have to agree that PDFs are the way to go for this.

If you want some free tiles look up Warhammer Quest on Google, here's one site for the game, there are several others, with some very different boards.

I am more fond of three dimensional builds, enough so that I am considering the World Works Dungeon Linx set shown above as a floor for their other sets.

I am also trying out Fat Dragon Games recent releases, they are simpler builds, and might be good for my summer children's game at the Festival for Creative Youth. (I love my summer job. The kids are bright, active, unpredictable, and energetic. ) World Works and Fat Dragon take some very different approaches. (World Works are more detailed, but the builds are a lot more involved. Fat Dragon tend to be easier builds, and perhaps a bit more solid, but with less detail. Both are good.)

The Auld Grump

 

[DaveMage]

As I said, if you get the toner carts professionally refilled, the cost is much less and - unlike refilling an ink jet - the quality is the same.

True - as long as you can find a quality vendor for this. It's not pretty when remans/refilled cartridges leak all over the inside of your printer....

Let the buyer beware.

 

[MerricB]

More info:

Shoe - 6 sheets, each printed on both sides - but one sheet does not equal one tile.

Paul Barclay - They're actually a little thicker than many of the boardgame stocks you might find out there. The pack of 6 tile sheets is as heavy as the Player's Guide to Eberron (about 1.5 pounds), and is about as thick, too.

And they look fantastic.

Cheers!

 

[WayneLigon]

More relevant to this discussion... they're also working on a new 2.5D set, called DungeonLinx, which will probably blow the competition right out of the water when it comes to graphics quality.

Wow, that and their website looked awesome until I realized they were print and put together things. Maybe if someone were to professionally do that for me, it would look as nice as that. Don't have the materials, time or talent to do that. Bah.

The Rackham stuff does look nice, but again... no picture of what I'm getting. I guess I could hope that stuff like what's on those covers is on the inside, but sorry, been down that road before. Damn fine looking website, useless product info.

 

[Felon]

WorldWorks Games does Chunky Dungeons, which are available in either pdf or pre-printed format. They have some neat-looking ones, although I haven't seen any in person.

Well, the sets look very cool, but they also appear only available as PDF's. Which makes'em far too time-and-resource-intensive to bother with.

Then again, their "sensory overload" approach to web design doesn't make for great navigation, so maybe there is indeed a way to get these things pre-printed.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Man, how can we leave out Rackham's new reversible tiles? I don't care what anyone else says, I think that Rackham has the best art in the industry bar none. Everything they produce is gorgeous. Their new website rocks hard as well. Here's some links:

The Coolest Industry Website Ever*
Reversible Gaming Tiles: Lower City 1
Reversible Gaming Tiles: The Lower City 2

* - One caveat. It is Flash-based.

I think you're underestimating people's demand for "official" product. Heck, Rackham, the guys who do Confrontaiton, have a whole slew of physical tile products out now.

Sure, you went that extra step and put in the web links, but they've been mentioned.

 

[dagger]

More info:

Shoe - 6 sheets, each printed on both sides - but one sheet does not equal one tile.

Paul Barclay - They're actually a little thicker than many of the boardgame stocks you might find out there. The pack of 6 tile sheets is as heavy as the Player's Guide to Eberron (about 1.5 pounds), and is about as thick, too.

And they look fantastic.

Cheers!

I plan on also doing a lamination or something to help protect them even more.