Firefox Rant

[drothgery]

Y'know, I've never understood the cult of hand-coding HTML. Do the same people write office documents by hand-coding ODF or OpenXML?

I'll tweak things by hand if I have to, but that's only a last resort; I don't have that kind of time. Almost any HTML on a page I write was built in a designer or comes out of an ASP.NET server control where I don't completely control the rendering (and even if I did, someone else is populating the database it's drawing from).

 

[Thanee]

Y'know, I've never understood the cult of hand-coding HTML. Do the same people write office documents by hand-coding ODF or OpenXML?

Only with LaTeX

But that's besides the point. While it's pretty unnecessary to know how a Word .DOC data object is built, it is rather good to know how HTML works. That's why starting off with a simple text editor and something like SelfHTML is the best way (IMHO) to start learning HTML.

Bye
Thanee

 

[FreeXenon]

Long live Notepad! All hail Notpad!

 

[ThirdWizard]

I program Java in notepad and compile in command line...

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I've never had a problem with Firefox as the OP describes, but then, I also have the IE Tab plug-in if there's some crapass site that uses MS-specific codes, instead of being readable by Opera, Firefox, Netscape, Safari, and so on ...

 

[drothgery]

I program Java in notepad and compile in command line...

Jeesh. If you must write code in a crippled environment, at least get a decent text editor (heck, even if you live in an IDE like Visual Studio or Eclipse, a decent text editor is nice to have, and Notepad isn't one).

 

[ThirdWizard]

Jeesh. If you must write code in a crippled environment, at least get a decent text editor (heck, even if you live in an IDE like Visual Studio or Eclipse, a decent text editor is nice to have, and Notepad isn't one).

Sometimes I use NoteTab

 

[Thanee]

Eclipse is bad, way too buggy. You always wonder why something doesn't work and it's just Ecplipse having one of its weird errors again.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Plane Sailing]

You may want to check out the IE7 scripts at http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/ . Add those to your site and IE becomes almost completely standards-compliant. I have had phenomenal success using these on corporate, public and personal web sites. It basically consists of IE-specific behaviors that use scripting to reform the markup and CSS to fit what you'd expect it to do. The entire thing is loaded by a one-line HTML comment with an embedded script tag. And this comment is fully standards compliant but not seen by other browsers due to a feature in IE5+ that allows conditional inclusion of markup.

It also allows CSS to support advanced CSS2.1 selectors which can make your life a whole lot easier by not having to <div class=""> everything for special cases.

It truly is a fantastic effort by the developer. It has saved me countless weeks of working on browser compliance on some projects.

That's an interesting link reanjr, I'm going to share that amongst my web team and see what we think of it too.

Cheers