D&D 5E First World: Possibly One of the New D&D setting?

[Demetrios1453]

Played Baldur's Gate 2?
Jan Jansen
Tinker gnomes may officially be specific to Dragonlance (and Spelljammer), but in practice it's a common D&D trope to portray gnomes as crazy inventors.

Even Kynn gnomes, if you get away from the work of W&H, build stuff that does work. It's W&H who are specifically cruel.

BG 1 had Tiax, who was a megalomaniacal gnome who had a penchant for breaking the fourth wall.

"We get no closer to world domination just standing about!"
"When Tiax rules, this forest will be lumber for but a leg of his throne!"
"The day comes when TIAX will point and click!" (when you order him to move somewhere)
"Has Tiax mentioned he's going to rule? 'Tis inevitable."
"Blast you! Escaping the inevitable rule of Tiax by dying? Coward!"

 

[Rikka66]

Now I am thinking if after the Feywild and the Shadowfell the next plane to be added to the D&D cosmology. It would be an "echo plane", but this plane is a "echo from the past". It wouldn't be an ersatz of the Feywild, but we would see prehistoric beasts, elemental monsters and primal forces. Why not to be explored and settled? Too many natural disasters as twisters, unknown epidemics, floods, meteor rains, earthquakes and even planar invasion by aliens. A true nightmare for humanoids with longer lives. A good place to hunt really big pieces, but a hell to live there.

The Elemental Chaos was meant to fulfill that role in the World Axis. Obviously not the prehistoric part, but thematically. The Feywild does some of it too.

 

[vecna00]

Bring back Council of Wyrms! (And let us play dragon PCs thanks)

I agree! I also wouldn't be surprised if the possible First World just uses Council of Wyrms as a base and just expands on it. Io actually created the world and the first land masses, but then Bahamut and Tiamat flesh out the rest. But everything changed when the other gods and their worshippers invaded showed up.

I'm still going through the thread (only on page 13), so forgive me if I'm just repeating what others have said!

 

[dave2008]

I agree! I also wouldn't be surprised if the possible First World just uses Council of Wyrms as a base and just expands on it. Io actually created the world and the first land masses, but then Bahamut and Tiamat flesh out the rest. But everything changed when the other gods and their worshippers invaded showed up.

I'm still going through the thread (only on page 13), so forgive me if I'm just repeating what others have said!

I would rather they stick with Tiamat and Bahamut. I never really like the addition of Io. Though its picture in the 4e Draconomicon was pretty cool:

 

[RoughCoronet0]

I would rather they stick with Tiamat and Bahamut. I never really like the addition of Io. Though its picture in the 4e Draconomicon was pretty cool:

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I personally love the idea of Io being the original dragon god. He was the embodiment of everything that a dragon is and can ever be, massive and formless as was his original children. Then he was sundered and out from him came his godly children, each embodying a fraction of his being and further molding their father’s creations into the dragons that exist today.

Io’s death plays a big role in my worlds creation story and is still important even in death.

 

[dave2008]

I personally love the idea of Io being the original dragon god. He was the embodiment of everything that a dragon is and can ever be, massive and formless as was his original children. Then he was sundered and out from him came his godly children, each embodying a fraction of his being and further molding their father’s creations into the dragons that exist today.

Io’s death plays a big role in my worlds creation story and is still important even in death.

I don't have anything against the concept really (I mean it is pretty similar to the RL Tiamat myth), but just prefer a different origin for dragons. I tend to default to something similar to the lore in 1e MM, MM2, or Deities and Demigods and Io was not a thing back then. So it isn't a thing in my cosmos.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

The elemental chaos and the First World can't be exactly the same one, because the first is almost a dessert and the second is more a jungle with a lot of life and even some remains of civilitation. Maybe the First World is in a special solar system within the Elemental Chaos, and with other planets as potential spin-offs for the future.

In the past I talked the idea of "akasha realms" or "crystal spheres", something like a demiplane what imitates pieces of the past, a mixture of theme park and a computer backup in the space-time continium created to avoid time paradoxes (and to know the past).

And we should think about the possible ecological impact of the dragons in ecosystems with dinosaurs. And let's imagine Hasbro wants to sell toys of the dzalmus, a three-headed dragon, for a crossover with a licencing about kaijus. Maybe with a retcon about a bloodline of dzalmus dragons living in the Far Realm, and even leadering Lovecraftian cults (and fighting against limmorms as rivals, and also with brainstealer dragons as natural enemies for the hunt zones). How can you explain they were in this or that setting, but they didn't appear until now.

This new setting with the subclasses of the last UA can't be a remake of "Councyl of Wyrms".

 

[vecna00]

I would rather they stick with Tiamat and Bahamut. I never really like the addition of Io. Though its picture in the 4e Draconomicon was pretty cool:

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That art piece is damn great!