Force Damage and Insubstantial. Is it just an old memory or actual rule?

[Shin Okada]

I (and some of my friends) thought to read the text which says Force damage or something similar inflicts full damage against insubstantial being. But now I cannot found that rule.

Is this just an old memory from pre4e? Or is there actually somewhat similar rule (or case) in 4e?

 

[jester_gl]

You are thinking about an 11th level feat, Inescapable Force, from PH1.

When you use a power that has the
force keyword, you deal full damage (instead of half
damage) against insubstantial creatures, and that​

power deals an extra 1d10 damage to such creatures.

 

[Shin Okada]

You are thinking about an 11th level feat, Inescapable Force, from PH1.

When you use a power that has the
force keyword, you deal full damage (instead of half
damage) against insubstantial creatures, and that​

power deals an extra 1d10 damage to such creatures.

Ah thanks! It seems to be the case.

 

[Nytmare]

Nah, my vote is for "old rule."

An incorporeal creature has no physical body. It can be harmed only by other incorporeal creatures, magic weapons or creatures that strike as magic weapons, and spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities. It is immune to all nonmagical attack forms. Even when hit by spells or magic weapons, it has a 50% chance to ignore any damage from a corporeal source (except for positive energy, negative energy, force effects such as magic missile, or attacks made with ghost touch weapons). Although it is not a magical attack, holy water can affect incorporeal undead, but a hit with holy water has a 50% chance of not affecting an incorporeal creature.

 

[Dice4Hire]

Nah, my vote is for "old rule."

Wrong forum, dude.

 

[Nytmare]

Wrong forum, dude.

Is this just an old memory from pre4e? Or is there actually somewhat similar rule (or case) in 4e?

Right forum, dude!

 

[mudbunny]

From the Compendium:
Insubstantial

When a creature is insubstantial, it takes half damage from any damage source, including ongoing damage. Some creatures are inherently insubstantial, which is noted in their “Resist” entries. See also half damage.

 

[FireLance]

To summarize:

Pre-4e: It's the rules
4e: Take a feat

 

[Dice4Hire]

From the Compendium:
Insubstantial

When a creature is insubstantial, it takes half damage from any damage source, including ongoing damage. Some creatures are inherently insubstantial, which is noted in their “Resist” entries. See also half damage.

Right Forum!!!!!