Forgotten Rums....? Evil Overlords...?

[Zot_Wyzo]

Should the Toast-boys cease to find it financially viable, I think most people would agree with with Forgotten Rum going the way of RaisinLost, provided SSSSSSSSSSS continues to produce RaisinLost material. Presumably, some third party company could start making Forgotten Rum material with some sort of license to do so (as with DonutLunch). Hopefully it will continue to be good.

That pretty much sums up how Forgotten Rums could continue to be produced, even though the Haze Brothers Bean Counters decided it was not efficient enough for their bean counting model.

However, this would drastically change the Toast-boys into a company that produce a whole bunch of Rum products to nearly exactly the model mentioned by Ryan Dancey in the recent posts ... Forgotten Rum would just be another setting where the Toast-boys produce a few set of "core-ish" books because that is where they see the big money is, and then ship off the rights to produce the rest to some other group.

Aren't you glad that Ryan Dancey had the forethought to come up with the OGL and D20 licenses? I'm sure he is even more glad than you or I as it keeps him employed!

Of course, I believe this is precisely what Haze Brothers had in mind for Wizards of the Toast all along.

I'm not sure what sort of pipeline the toast-boys see for incoming work and projects but that seems to eliminate a cash-flow creating product line (from where I sit) and ultimately pushes people interested in Forgotten Rum to follow another company.

That's the idea. I also begin to see how 160,000 beans for three potential recipes over the next few years that begins development with Crunchiness produced by Wizards of the Toast (a wholly owned subsidiary of Haze Brothers) would actually be worthwhile for the Bean Counter race. It is incredibly savvy, plus throws bones to the smaller Donut20 villages, where former Wizards of the Toast elves now work. The initial risk is assumed by the Toast boys for development, but further support is taken up by the Donut20 villages.

It keeps the elves employed, albeit elsewhere, plus puts the WotT margins in line with the Haze Brothers expectations. It's win-win for the Toast Boys, but of course some of these recipes will end up dying. The fact is that even though a Donut20 village has the rights to RaisinLost (or potentially Forgotten Rums), it could go out of business due to the failure of other, unrelated, recipes.

 

[Largomad]

I agree with Sean. sometimes the logic the bean-counters use is only understable for them.

At least the elves could work for santa claus during the winter, i supose.

 

[Kaptain_Kantrip]

I think the Realms is more or less retarded, for lack of a better word. I have little interest in its people, places or history because they are not built on a solid, believable base (*cough* Elminster *cough*). Greyhawk is better, but not by much. Therefore, I buy crunchy books only and ignore the rest. Bean counters are right!!!

In fact, I am getting so burned out on d20's munchkin "video game" feel that I am considering switching over to a more realistic set of rules... HarnMaster. I've already dumped FR, GH and homebrews in favor of HarnWorld, because it is so much more realistic and authentic than anything WoTC or anyone else has ever done. I mean, light years ahead! It's not for kids and its not for high fantasy lovers looking to bash endless hordes of unbelievable monsters, gather the best and most powerful magic items or behave in an obnoxious and unrealistic manner. It's a setting that treats its readers like adults... adults with medieval history degrees, LOL. I love it anyway!

HARN
http://columbiagames.com

 

[Green Knight]

[Edit - OK, I can see you're upset. But you know this isn't the place for it. And you know I have to edit this.

To everyone else - let's keep it non-political, eh? We just had a classic example of exactly why there's a no-politics rule on these boards. People get angry and/or upset.

-Morrus]

 

[Zot_Wyzo]

I guess this thread has gone up in the proverbial flames.

 

[Simon Magalis]

I was going to say... oh well, he's right. Nevermind. Jeez!
BTW... keep your political comments OFF THIS BOARD! Damn that pisses me off and everybody else too. What an idiot.

 

[Morrus]

Calling people idiots isn't nice, either, Simon. Let's drop the subject and get back to the original topic, eh?

 

[BeholderBurger]

Unfortunately when you talk about this subject it is all bound up in politics. THIS IS about pure greed which is always covered up by the argument of Corporate necessity.

I must register my complaint about Green knights response being censored. Goth Vaders point is still available to be seen.
I actually totally disagreed with Green Knights analysis and have a lot of sympathy for Goth Vaders point of view but to censor him without censoring Gothvader is harsh.

 

[Dwarven Godfather]

About the Evil Overlords

I think the biggest problem is that they want to charge to much for the books. I have friends who would rather loan me the copies for Forgotten rums, especially since I have a family and trying to make ends meet everday along with trying to buy RPG books too is to expensive for todays economy.
I use to just buy Palladium Books which are usually 200 to 300 page books and only ran $20.00 and still have the copies from 10 years ago still in good condition. I don't think they have to do fancy things to the front cover for me to buy them. I just bought about a 64 page book for $20.00 and the local hobby store tried to push a The Epic Level book on me, but I told them I'd wait until a friend of mine bought the book to see if it was worth the buy, I'm pretty sure I will, but it will have to wait until I can get ahold of additional money to even think about buying the book.
So the whole point to the story is that the Evil Overlords want to much beans for their products. I do love the Forgotten Realms setting and am adding it to the Dragonstar Universe, but I'm collecting the Forgotten Rums books very slowly and until then my friends are loaning the books to me plus they are loaning the older books also for more information to the Rums.
This is only my feelings on the whole situation. The rest of the community is charging cheaper prices also for us who don't have alot of Beans in the first place. Dwarven Godfather

 

[Morrus]

Unfortunately when you talk about this subject it is all bound up in politics. THIS IS about pure greed which is always covered up by the argument of Corporate necessity.

I must register my complaint about Green knights response being censored. Goth Vaders point is still available to be seen.
I actually totally disagreed with Green Knights analysis and have a lot of sympathy for Goth Vaders point of view but to censor him without censoring Gothvader is harsh.

The subject has been dropped. Email me if you need to. Let people get back to discussing Forgotten Rums and elves and stuff.