Forked Thread: Goodman IS going GSL!

[The Little Raven]

I have read the GSL.

Then you must have not read it carefully, because section 6.1 (the section you explicitly cited) openly states that you can sell off the remaining physical inventory you have without any problems.

6.1 OGL Product Conversion. If Licensee has entered into the “Open Gaming License version 1.0” with Wizards (“OGL”), and Licensee has previously published a product under the OGL (each an “OGL Product”), Licensee may publish a Licensed Product subject to this License that features the same or similar title, product line trademark, or contents as such OGL Product (each such OGL Product, a “Converted OGL Product”, and each such Licensed Product, a “Conversion”). Upon the first publication date of a Conversion, Licensee will cease all manufacturing and publication of the corresponding Converted OGL Product and all other OGL Products which are part of the same product line as the Converted OGL Product, as reasonably determined by Wizards (“Converted OGL Product Line”). Licensee explicitly agrees that it will not thereafter manufacture or publish any portion of the Converted OGL Product Line, or any products that would be considered part of a Converted OGL Product Line (as reasonably determined by Wizards) pursuant to the OGL. Licensee may continue to distribute and sell-off all remaining physical inventory of a Converted OGL Product Line after the corresponding Conversion is published, but will, as of such date, cease all publication, distribution and sale (and ensure that third party affiliates of Licensee cease their publication, distribution and sale) of any element of a Converted OGL Product Line in any electronic downloadable format. For the avoidance of doubt, (a) any OGL Product that is not part of a Converted OGL Product Line may continue to be manufactured, published, sold and distributed pursuant to the OGL; and (b) this Section 6.1 will survive termination of this Agreement.

 

[Filcher]

The GSL does not allow the logo on the front. It only allows the logo on the back.

It *requires* the logo on the back, don't I don't recall it restricting other places you could place it. (The cover of Wraith Recon does this, though it makes the cover ugly IMO.)

 

[Brown Jenkin]

It *requires* the logo on the back, don't I don't recall it restricting other places you could place it. (The cover of Wraith Recon does this, though it makes the cover ugly IMO.)

Upon review you are right. I was interpreting the intent of WotC and not the precise language. I expect a revised GSL as soon as WotC starts seeing 3pp products with the D&D logo on the front.

 

[hexgrid]

It *requires* the logo on the back, don't I don't recall it restricting other places you could place it. (The cover of Wraith Recon does this, though it makes the cover ugly IMO.)

I don't think they need to specify this. The GSL describes the ways you can use their trademarks, so if the GSL doesn't describe putting the logo on the front cover then you can't do it.

The GSL FAQ does specifically state that the logo can only be on the back cover or the legal page.

EDIT: I just looked at the Wraith Recon image on the Mongoose site. It seems a clear violation of the license, because the logo can only appear in the "lower left quadrant" of marketing materials.

 

[Twowolves]

Originally Posted by guivre
No he doesn't. Take the time to actually read the GSL.

Rude much? I have read the GSL. They can't distribute it anymore, nor sell any more downloads. Per section 6.1.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of why ENworld is a barren wasteland to me. A guy who hasn't been on these boards for 6 WEEKS comes in here and acts like this to a guy who has been here over 6 YEARS (and was with me on rec.games.frp.dnd before that). Psion is an icon of these boards, and a Review Moderator for heaven's sakes, and he gets treated like this?

Bah.

 

[Ginnel]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of why ENworld is a barren wasteland to me. A guy who hasn't been on these boards for 6 WEEKS comes in here and acts like this to a guy who has been here over 6 YEARS (and was with me on rec.games.frp.dnd before that). Psion is an icon of these boards, and a Review Moderator for heaven's sakes, and he gets treated like this?

Bah.

I'm sorry but why should people get respect depending on the amount of time they have been here?

I'm not pointing this next statement at anyone in particular, but all it means is that they've been registered since that time and haven't got themselves banned, nothing more.

People earn my respect by the posts I read, inparticular if they seem mostly unbiased and willing to except both views of an arguement and are polite about their own views.

 

[2WS-Steve]

I don't believe people deserve respect based on amount of time posting -- but I don't think Psion making a mistake warrants the kind of rude response Psion got, and that would hold for anyone, no matter how many posts they have.

 

[Ginnel]

I don't believe people deserve respect based on amount of time posting -- but I don't think Psion making a mistake warrants the kind of rude response Psion got, and that would hold for anyone, no matter how many posts they have.

Agreed, no one deserves a rude response from anyone.

 

[guivre]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is a prime example of why ENworld is a barren wasteland to me. A guy who hasn't been on these boards for 6 WEEKS comes in here and acts like this to a guy who has been here over 6 YEARS (and was with me on rec.games.frp.dnd before that). Psion is an icon of these boards, and a Review Moderator for heaven's sakes, and he gets treated like this?

Bah.

Lighten up, Francis.

No one deserves any more respect for being around longer, not that you have any idea how long I've been around (ftr: since before the split junior).

If you find it rude to be corrected when you're wrong then don't be wrong. He was so blatantly wrong that it was a valid assumption that he hadn't read the GSL (hell... I even said please). The alternative is worse that he read it and failed completely to understand it.

 

[2WS-Steve]

Lighten up, Francis.

No one deserves any more respect for being around longer, not that you have any idea how long I've been around (ftr: since before the split junior).

If you find it rude to be corrected when you're wrong then don't be wrong. He was so blatantly wrong that it was a valid assumption that he hadn't read the GSL (hell... I even said please). The alternative is worse that he read it and failed completely to understand it.

Condescending too. Just all kinds of win today.