Forked Thread: ... with an interesting note about 4th edition

[Jack99]

Did it amount to loss regarding the hype effect or did this help it even more?

How many of the 5.5 million estimated D&D players do you think read that Ampersand article?

Yeah, thought so.

 

[xechnao]

Who knows? You would probably say it helped, I would say it didn't, and neither of us would have hard data either way.

I say "who knows?" too. Remeber I just posted here to speak about the possibility of production control regarding demand to someone who was saying it was an idiotic thing to be thinking.

 

[xechnao]

How many of the 5.5 million estimated D&D players do you think read that Ampersand article?

Yeah, thought so.

ehh...excuse me?

 

[Jack99]

ehh...excuse me?

Haven't you been arguing that WotC might have short-handed the market in order to create hype by saying they had already sold out the first print run, or am I reading something there isn't there?

 

[xechnao]

Haven't you been arguing that WotC might have short-handed the market in order to create hype by saying they had already sold out the first print run, or am I reading something there isn't there?

I was arguing that exists this possibility in business. But I did not get what your point was. Neither do I know what the Ampersand article is.

 

[Jack99]

I was arguing that exists this possibility in business. But I did not get what your point was. Neither do I know what the Ampersand article is.

The point was that the Ampersand article (in which the hype about WotC already going to 3rd printing (or was it 4th) probably wasn't read by a big percentage of D&D players, and most of those who read, probably already had the books.

Couple those things, and you will understand that it is (IMO) extremely unlikely that WotC did tamper with the size of prints in order to create the illusion of a well-selling edition. Not to mention that first print run was bigger than both 3.0 and 3.5 first runs.

Cheers

 

[xechnao]

The point was that the Ampersand article (in which the hype about WotC already going to 3rd printing (or was it 4th) probably wasn't read by a big percentage of D&D players, and most of those who read, probably already had the books.

Couple those things, and you will understand that it is (IMO) extremely unlikely that WotC did tamper with the size of prints in order to create the illusion of a well-selling edition. Not to mention that first print run was bigger than both 3.0 and 3.5 first runs.

Cheers

Oh but the Ampersand article is not the most relevant source to learn that something has selled out (I was not aware about it- although it was possible due to the network effects of the geek or nerd community we are). What could perhaps be more though relevant is when you are waiting to buy it and you find out by your retailer that it has selled out and that you'll have to wait just a slight bit more.

EDIT: clarification

 

[Jack99]

Oh but the Ampersand article is not the most relevant source to learn that something has selled out (I did not know it- although it is due to the network effects of the geek or nerd community we are). What could perhaps be more though relevant is when you are waiting to buy it and you find out by your retailer that it has selled out and that you'll have to wait just a slight bit more.

Hype isn't created by shortage, hype is created by talking about the shortage. Again, how many people have read the article? Or even better, how large a percentage of D&D players use the internet to discuss such things? My guess is less than 5-10%, most of which already had ordered or at least decided on what to do regarding 4e. They were not the ones who needed targeted by the hype, if there ever was any.

 

[xechnao]

Hype isn't created by shortage, hype is created by talking about the shortage. Again, how many people have read the article? Or even better, how large a percentage of D&D players use the internet to discuss such things? My guess is less than 5-10%, most of which already had ordered or at least decided on what to do regarding 4e. They were not the ones who needed targeted by the hype, if there ever was any.

But shortage can create talking about shortage. This can be desirable if it is regulated in a way that wont affect sales significantly. If for example you have any bit of shortage when your competitors hit the market too, then this will probably going to harm you. These are fine regulations and unique to the case we can't bother to analyze over here.

 

[Jack99]

But shortage can create talking about shortage. This can be desirable if it is regulated in a way that wont affect sales significantly. If for example you have any bit of shortage when your competitors hit the market too, then this will probably going to harm you. These are fine regulations and unique to the case we can't bother to analyze over here.

Yes, it can, if the shortage is big enough. However, how do you fit this with 4e's first print run being bigger than 3.0 and 3.5's first print run?