Fortification on armor and shields.

[Mal Malenkirk]

Does the fortification ability of armor and shields stack.

I think the answer lies within concealment. If you have blur (20% concealment) and a Cloak of Major Diplacement (50% concealment) at the same time. Do you take the best of the two or the better of the two?

However, this isn't just an issue with Fortification, what about elemental resistance? A shield of fire resistance and armor of fire resistance would provide 10 or 20 points of fire resistance?

It isn't a good topic until we've muddled it with more questions than answers!



I'll answer to Aryes:

The solution is to stop being a treasure hugger. If you have an armor of fortification you give the shield to someone else!



Seriously though, I'd say they don't stack until it is stated that they do. The rules against stacking are the norm and the exception (Dodge bonus, shield armor bonus etc.) are usually stated clearly.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I know that if someone is blurred and blinking I do both. As far as blurred and displaced I haven't been in that situation, but I could see checking one then the other. Of course total darkness offers a 50% miss chance, so I may have to think about that.

"When multiple concealment conditions apply to a defender (behind dense foliage, near total darkness, and a blur spell, for example), use the one that would produce the highest miss chance. Do not add the miss chances together."

PHB p133.

-Hyp.

 

[Albereth]

Ummm, gonna hafta agree with Hyper on this one. Use the highest miss chance and give the shield to someone else :cool"

 

[Hypersmurf]

Ummm, gonna hafta agree with Hyper on this one. Use the highest miss chance and give the shield to someone else :cool"

That was Mal's idea - I can't take credit for it.

I flip-flopped throughout this thread

-Hyp.

 

[Albereth]

That was Mal's idea - I can't take credit for it.

I flip-flopped throughout this thread

-Hyp.

Phew, thought I was having to agree with you again

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Phew, thought I was having to agree with you again

Don't be too relieved yet, Albareth.

You tried to strip me of my well deserved credit and give it to some sort of smurf.

I will not forget this slight. I will plot my revenge meticulously. Meanwhile I will give you a frown:



No, that's not quite right.



There, that's better.

 

[Albereth]

Well, it is hard to say you agree with someone who is holding a shaking Scooby Doo in his arms but then you go and quote Leonard Cohen in your sig so you can't be all bad

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

Well, it is hard to say you agree with someone who is holding a shaking Scooby Doo in his arms...

Hey, the guy holding Scooby Doo isn't my avatar. Scooby Doo is my avatar!

 

[Hypersmurf]

Hey, the guy holding Scooby Doo isn't my avatar. Scooby Doo is my avatar!

And here I thought you were using that new Monte Cook spell, and your avatar is some weird Scooby-Shaggy Composite Creature...

-Hyp.

 

[Mal Malenkirk]

And here I thought you were using that new Monte Cook spell, and your avatar is some weird Scooby-Shaggy Composite Creature...

That crazy Monte Cook, he's like a mad scientist.

You should see his latest adventure; Beyond The Veil. In it, he's crossbreeding a dragon with everything from a snake to a manticore. You'd swear he is the Dr. Moreau.

Seriously though, I've got a few other character I'd like to stand in for my avatar but I'm too lazy to look them up.