FR: What's up with Lolth? (Spoilers, please)


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Crothian said:
where are the demon web pits moved to?

Keep in mind this is the already messed up 3e Realms cosmology we are talking about here. We needn't concern ourselves about its supposed impact on the real cosmology. ;)
 

arnwyn said:
Its own plane.

A deity other than Mystra having "Chosen"? A negative.

I'll make you a deal. You kill off all of Mysty's Chosen (ok, you can leave one behind as long as it's not Qilue) and I'll kill off all the Chosen of all the other deities. This is a package deal; Azuth's Magister has to die too.
 
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Christopher Lambert said:
I'll make you a deal. You kill off all of Mysty's Chosen (ok, you can leave one behind as long as it's not Qilue) and I'll kill off all the Chosen of all the other deities. This is a package deal; Azuth's Magister has to die too.

Good luck with that; here's the list of Chosen from various FR products and novels (sorry it's not annotated):

Mystra: Elminster, Khelben Arunsun, Storm Silverhand, Dove Falconhand, Alustriel Silverhand, Sylune Silverhand, Laeral Silverhand, The Simbul, Qilue Veladorn, Noumea Drathchuld, Alvaerele Tasundrym, Symrustar Auglamyr, Srinshee, Nadrathen (deceased), and Embrae Aloevan (deceased). Sammaster was formerly a Chosen of Mystra, but had his Chosen status revoked.

Iyachtu Xvim (deceased deity): Fzoul Chembryl.

Bane: Fzoul Chembryl (Fzoul seamlessly transferred from being Xvim's Chosen to Bane's when Bane returned, killing Xvim in the process).

Talona: The Rotting Man.

Silvanus: Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).

Eldath: Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).

Mielikki: Jeryth Phaulkon, Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these last three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).

Deneir: Cadderly Bonaduce.

Eilistraee: Qilue Veladorn (Chosen of two deities at once).

Mask: Avner of Hartsvale.

Shar: All details about Shar's Chosen (beyond the fact that one exists) are unknown.

Umberlee: Slarkrethel.

Cyric: Malik el Sami yn Nasser.

Ubtao: (there is some controversy over whether Ubtao's Bara are also Chosen. I list them here for completeness) Alisanda Rayburton, Dhlamass Rayburton, Ras Nsi, Fipya, Kwalu, Mainu, Ossaw I, T'fima (T'fima had his status as a Bara revoked centuries ago).

Sehanine Moonbow: Embrae Aloevan (deceased; she, like Qilue, was Chosen of two deities at once).

Labelas Enoreth: Vartan Hai Sylver.

Gilgeam (deceased deity): Lord Shuruppak.

Lolth: Liriel Baenre (Liriel has since had her Chosen status revoked).

Malar: Anth-Malar.

The Seldarine (elven pantheon): Queen Amlaruil, Ilyana (deceased).
Merrshaulk/Sseth: Pil’it’ith (Pil’it’ith has since had his Chosen status revoked).

In regards to Quenthel being a Chosen, at the end of the last book
she and Danifae heard (what is presumably) the voice of Lolth calling Quenthel "Yor'thae", which means Chosen One, and that's about all we know. So while it seems like she's a Chosen, I still think there's some room for doubt, at least until the next book comes out.
 
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Psion,

That's YOUR opinion. In mine, she and number of GH/FR deities need to take a flying leap into the River Styx and die. Orcus is da'man and while Kiaranselee might have been elevated, she's not going to stay that way for long, especially now that Lolth is back.
 

Uh, Alzrius,
Other than the most well-known (Mystra, Bane, Deneir), I agree about some of those, but since when were all those called/considered Chosen? IIRC, there was a lot of debating going on on the FR Wizards boards concerning Chosen & Seraphs, etc., & if they were considered the same thing. Was that ever settled?

Other than that, where is it listed that these powers had Chosen & that those you listed were them: Talona, the Seldarine & a couple of Mystra's?

(BTW, personally, I don't think Vartan Hai Sylvar should be a Chosen, in spite of the fact that he is called such in Demihuman Deities. At the end of the FR comic, he was barely able to reconcile with Labelas & accept him back as his god; in such a short period of time, he decides to become the mortal voice & focus of him? Eh, my thoughts.)
 

maransreth said:
And in an interview with Mortality Radio last year, Salvatore denied any knowledge of his involvement with the Spider Queen novels. I think that is what he said anyway about it.

He knew about the novels, but says he didnt have any involvement in what occurred or the writing of any of the novels.

If he's denying involvement, then why is his name stamped on every book? And that he did an "intro" to each novel? Haven't heard that myself.
 

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