(BTW, personally, I don't think Vartan Hai Sylvar should be a Chosen, in spite of the fact that he is called such in Demihuman Deities. At the end of the FR comic, he was barely able to reconcile with Labelas & accept him back as his god; in such a short period of time, he decides to become the mortal voice & focus of him? Eh, my thoughts.)
He went off to Arvandor to serve as his Proxy, as I recall. In any case, after that (short story in Dragon #247), he left Enoreth's service in Arvandor and returned to earth as his cleric. That was May '98, and DD came out in Oct '98. There isn't any mention there of Chosen, but given their relationship (very unlike worshipper/worshipped) I could see Enoreth choosing him as his Chosen- Vartan helps to reconnect Enoreth with the realities of mortal life, which his removal as a deity keeps him distant from. This is the sort of thing that was developed in the FR comic.
Good luck with that; here's the list of Chosen from various FR products and novels (sorry it's not annotated):
Mystra: Elminster, Khelben Arunsun, Storm Silverhand, Dove Falconhand, Alustriel Silverhand, Sylune Silverhand, Laeral Silverhand, The Simbul, Qilue Veladorn, Noumea Drathchuld, Alvaerele Tasundrym, Symrustar Auglamyr, Srinshee, Nadrathen (deceased), and Embrae Aloevan (deceased). Sammaster was formerly a Chosen of Mystra, but had his Chosen status revoked.
Iyachtu Xvim (deceased deity): Fzoul Chembryl.
Bane: Fzoul Chembryl (Fzoul seamlessly transferred from being Xvim's Chosen to Bane's when Bane returned, killing Xvim in the process).
Talona: The Rotting Man.
Silvanus: Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).
Eldath: Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).
Mielikki: Jeryth Phaulkon, Shinthala Deepcrest, Lady Shadowmoon, Ashenford Torinbow (these last three are the Elder Circle of the Emerald Enclave, and are the Chosen of Silvanus, Eldath, and Mielikki all at once).
Deneir: Cadderly Bonaduce.
Eilistraee: Qilue Veladorn (Chosen of two deities at once).
Mask: Avner of Hartsvale.
Shar: All details about Shar's Chosen (beyond the fact that one exists) are unknown.
Umberlee: Slarkrethel.
Cyric: Malik el Sami yn Nasser.
Ubtao: (there is some controversy over whether Ubtao's Bara are also Chosen. I list them here for completeness) Alisanda Rayburton, Dhlamass Rayburton, Ras Nsi, Fipya, Kwalu, Mainu, Ossaw I, T'fima (T'fima had his status as a Bara revoked centuries ago).
Sehanine Moonbow: Embrae Aloevan (deceased; she, like Qilue, was Chosen of two deities at once).
Labelas Enoreth: Vartan Hai Sylver.
Gilgeam (deceased deity): Lord Shuruppak.
Lolth: Liriel Baenre (Liriel has since had her Chosen status revoked).
Malar: Anth-Malar.
The Seldarine (elven pantheon): Queen Amlaruil, Ilyana (deceased).
Merrshaulk/Sseth: Pil’it’ith (Pil’it’ith has since had his Chosen status revoked).
In regards to Quenthel being a Chosen, at the end of the last book
she and Danifae heard (what is presumably) the voice of Lolth calling Quenthel "Yor'thae", which means Chosen One, and that's about all we know. So while it seems like she's a Chosen, I still think there's some room for doubt, at least until the next book comes out.
Uh, Alzrius,
Other than the most well-known (Mystra, Bane, Deneir), I agree about some of those, but since when were all those called/considered Chosen? IIRC, there was a lot of debating going on on the FR Wizards boards concerning Chosen & Seraphs, etc., & if they were considered the same thing. Was that ever settled?
No debate on the WotC forums is ever settled. That said, it seemed pretty clear (to me) that Chosen and Seraph are the same thing, since in at least two cases, various differing products use both terms to refer to the same character. I wish I could recall the annotations more correctly, but one of them is Slarkrethel (from, IIRC, Cloak & Dagger and Lords of Darkness and the other is Malik, called a chosen in, IIRC again, Lords of Darkness).
Other than that, where is it listed that these powers had Chosen & that those you listed were them: Talona, the Seldarine & a couple of Mystra's?
Mystra's are as follows (as well as I can reference these):
Embrae Aloevan. Srinshee is from the novel Elminster in Hell (IIRC). Noumea Drathchild is in The Magister (IIRC Alvaerele Tasundrym is in there too) and the novel Cloak of Shadows. I think Nadrathen is in the novel The Temptation of Elminster, but I can't find anything to back that up.
Ilyana, and her mother, Queen Amlaruil are named as Chosen of the Seldarine (from what I've been told) in the novel Evermeet.
The Rotting Man, Talona's Chosen, is given a very basic overview in Unapproachable East, page 118, first paragraph under the "Rawlinswood" entry.
I can't find the entry for Jeryth Phaulkon, but she's mentioned in more than one product, and the Emerald Enclave are in The Vilhon Reach.
Avner, Mask's Chosen, can be found on page 68 (IIRC) of Dragon #245.
I'm pretty sure I remember Shar's Chosen being mentioned in Underdark, but I can't find a reference.
Slarkrethel is mentioned as Umberlee's Chosen on page 154 of Lords of Darkness (and page 83 of Cloak & Dagger as her Seraph).
Ubtao's Bara are mentioned in the novel The Ring of Winter.
I may need to update Vartan as no longer being Labelas's Chosen due to the story in Dragon #247, but I thought I saw something after that that still had him listed as one...
Lord Shuruppak is called Gilgeam's Chosen on pages 304-305 of the Epic Level Handbook.
Liriel Baenre is called Lolth's Chosen (for a while) in the novel Windwalker.
Anth-Malar is mentioned as Malar's Chosen on page 41 of Dungeon #103.
And lastly, Pil'it'ith is listed as Merrshaulk/Sseth's former Chosen on page 60 of Serpent Kingdoms.
I may need to update Vartan as no longer being Labelas's Chosen due to the story in Dragon #247, but I thought I saw something after that that still had him listed as one...
My reply above might have been a bit confusing- the Dragon article came out in May of '98, and Demihuman Deities came out in Oct '98. Presumably the DD book would have had the more up to date info, so he might still be Enoreth's Chosen. I was just pointing out that the relationship the two shared (particularly in that article) didn't preclude Vartan being his Chosen.
Also Mask has 2 that aren't on that list and they are in the Erevis Cale novels or the 2nd one is in the Rogue Dragons Anthology. Erevis is one of them but I forgot the name of the other.
Shar's is in Underdark it's in one of the strange box texts where it mentions a map/book or something to that effect.
Quenthel is basically the Chosen of Lolth now*, and Lolth is giving birth (she had midwives in attendance). The Demonweb Pits are their own plane now, instead of being part of the Abyss.
"So 3rd ed made Drow NE instead of CE, how can we milk this for all its worth?"
"How about a series of hardcover novels where Lloth grows from CE to NE, should be able to drag it out for at least 6 volumes, might even toss out an anthology too!"
"You da' man!"
In short Drow are now NE according to the MM, their patron goddess in CE, see the dilemma?
This whole series is just to make the FR drow in line with the MM Drow (much like the Avatar series was supposed to explain "why" everything changed from 1st to 2nd ed).
Sorry, I got better uses 200 dollars,
Vraille Darkfang
The only true chosen are that of Mystra. That is they're carrying around a small essence of the goddess of magic.
The other "chosen" is a misnomer, you might call them instead "champions" given special powers by thier patron gods. But they are not, NOT, NOT, Chosen.
The only true chosen are that of Mystra. That is they're carrying around a small essence of the goddess of magic.
The other "chosen" is a misnomer, you might call them instead "champions" given special powers by thier patron gods. But they are not, NOT, NOT, Chosen.
