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Frank Mentzer reveals more details on Worlds of Empyrea

Frank Mentzer, in a video interview about his years in game design and upcoming Kickstarter, notes that Worlds of Empyrea will not just include multi-system support, but that each game system will have an Empyrea boxed set tailor made to fit the play style for that particular game system, which he hopes to release for Gen Con 2018 following the upcoming Kickstarter next month.


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Additionally, over on Facebook, he revealed a new (final) logo for the setting.

The different boxed sets means that the DCC version of the box set might differ in tone and content, than the D&D 5E version or the Castles & Crusades version. It also means that gamers will not need to sift through mechanics that are intended for other game systems (such as monster stat blocks, etc). The box set will include only the content relevant to the game system of choice. Amongst the systems mentioned were RuneQuest, Savage Worlds, D&D 5e, AD&D, BECMI, Dungeon Crawl Classics, Pathfinder, and Swords & Wizardry.

The interview also touches upon several other aspects of the Kickstarter as well as Frank's history during and after his TSR tenure.
 

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Adammar

Explorer
I would think this would be impractical. It would mean each book would have to be re-written and have multiple small print runs and the boxes would have to be packed separately. Add the market fractioning from the multitude of systems and I am not sure how one would make it work financially.
 

jerryrice4949

Adventurer
I would think this would be impractical. It would mean each book would have to be re-written and have multiple small print runs and the boxes would have to be packed separately. Add the market fractioning from the multitude of systems and I am not sure how one would make it work financially.

I have similar concerns. Looks good but if it is so ambitious I worry about the likelihood of it being on time or complete at all.
 

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ExTSR

Guest
One Product for 10 Systems?

Quite reasonable concerns above. Here's how it will work:

1. I've already worked out the details.
Back in 2012-13 I worked on this a lot, but the company (Eldritch) couldn't handle it, so it got shelved. This time it works. This is my full-time job now.

2. Setting not Adventures: Most of this text isn't system-specific. The crunch can be segregated into a System Book. When you need combat details, you switch to that booklet. Afterward you go back to the realm book (or whichever).
......By contrast, every Adventure must be system-specific. In that case we'll start with one great adventure and convert/rewrite for each System. That may in fact prove infeasible cost-wise, but we'll try. The fallback is to encourage fans and publishers to generate their own, working in cooperation with the Empyrea team.

3. Game-specific details: For 5e (frex), you CAN play a Duergar, Eladrin, Dragonborn, or Firbolg in Empyrea (we provide the key PC background bits) but we may have to rule out Aasimar entirely. In some systems, Clerics are missing; we'll address that too. And so forth.

4. Slight compromise by You
We're aiming for 95% compatibility. There will undoubtedly be a few things we have to modify or rule out. Every system has unique cool approaches, and we'll go through every one of them.

5. A First Step
Yes, a System Publishers' product would have the big books full of lots of game-specific stuff. That's what publishers do to promote their game systems. But it doesn't have to be that way; that's just old habits, the old low-risk Tried-And-True. this is New, both as a product and as an approach. As an independent Design House, we both can and will support many game systems, not just one--because we don't have a System of our own. (We might, in a couple of years; we'll see.)
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And finally, as to Being Timely: This is my first Kickstarter so I've assembled a large Team of specialists. I know how to Manage, not how to do all this tech and web stuff and art. ;> Loxley is a company, not a hobby, and we have a tight timeline. Team members have already run more than 25 kickstarters for their own projects, and their experience is helping with this one. We're very confident that we can deliver next Summer, in time for GenCon 51. :)

-- Frank
 
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TrainedMunkey

First Post
Quite reasonable concerns above. Here's how it will work:

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And finally, as to Being Timely: This is my first Kickstarter so I've assembled a large Team of specialists. I know how to Manage, not how to do all this tech and web stuff and art. ;> Loxley is a company, not a hobby, and we have a tight timeline. Team members have already run more than 25 kickstarters for their own projects, and their experience is helping with this one. We're very confident that we can deliver next Summer, in time for GenCon 51. :)

-- Frank

I am excited Frank. Good luck and you have my backing for a couple different box sets.
 


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ExTSR

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you have my backing for a couple different box sets.
You only need one. :) Save your money, there's a lot of cool stuff out there.

Add-on the extra System Books only (very affordable) for the other Crunch you want.
That's built into the Kickstarter ordering setup.

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Ed Veal

First Post
You only need one. :) Save your money, there's a lot of cool stuff out there.

Add-on the extra System Books only (very affordable) for the other Crunch you want.
That's built into the Kickstarter ordering setup.

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Now that is even better news, as I play D&D 5E and Savage worlds. This way I can get one box and just add on the other crunch books I need. Well I will probably get two box sets anyway one to use and one to shelve. I like to collect! Thanks Frank!
 

Shasarak

First Post
Add-on the extra System Books only (very affordable) for the other Crunch you want.
That's built into the Kickstarter ordering setup.

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This is cool - I know I will be looking at the ADnD, Basic and Pathfinder versions. What a great idea to part me from my money.
 



Ace of Shadows

Savant Sage
Well I know this box set didn't happen but I'm still curious if those 9 planets in the logo are the only ones you can see in the night sky whilst standing on the continent of Aquaria and if so what their given and indigenous names were, back in the day.
 

Gradine

Final Form (they/them)
No judgment, no accusations, and no links; I genuinely don't believe that such things belong in this thread. I really, really, do not want to threadcrap; I would like this thread to remain for those who are excited about this product.

That said, I would feel remiss if I did not point out that it is usually a good idea to check in on what Crowdfunding creators have been up to in, for example, the past 4-5 years, before committing to give your money to them. There are many, many, examples of people getting burned before, and I just want to make the friendly suggestion that you good folks know who and what y'all are spending your money on.

I leave the rest of you to your well-justified excitement
 

jerryrice4949

Adventurer
No judgment, no accusations, and no links; I genuinely don't believe that such things belong in this thread. I really, really, do not want to threadcrap; I would like this thread to remain for those who are excited about this product.

That said, I would feel remiss if I did not point out that it is usually a good idea to check in on what Crowdfunding creators have been up to in, for example, the past 4-5 years, before committing to give your money to them. There are many, many, examples of people getting burned before, and I just want to make the friendly suggestion that you good folks know who and what y'all are spending your money on.

I leave the rest of you to your well-justified excitement
You do realize this is from 4 years ago?
 

Gradine

Final Form (they/them)
You do realize this is from 4 years ago?
I believe you'll find that time frame was already in my post. This is not about endlessly relitigating stuff from years ago. It's about whether it still matters to you(generic you) or not. If it doesn't, great! If it does, also great!

I've heard a lot of backer horror stories from folks who didn't know who they were signing up for over the years. Hell, the whole Perfect RPG debacle was, what, a month ago?

This is just a situation where I think people might want to do their research before making the decision to back or not. What I'm trying, carefully (if maybe not fully successfully) to do, is to not advocate one position or the other. That way lies madness and acrimony and ultimately a closed thread. I just wanted to give a heads up for folks who I know might care but have forgotten what happened.
 

jerryrice4949

Adventurer
I believe you'll find that time frame was already in my post. This is not about endlessly relitigating stuff from years ago. It's about whether it still matters to you(generic you) or not. If it doesn't, great! If it does, also great!

I've heard a lot of backer horror stories from folks who didn't know who they were signing up for over the years. Hell, the whole Perfect RPG debacle was, what, a month ago?

This is just a situation where I think people might want to do their research before making the decision to back or not. What I'm trying, carefully (if maybe not fully successfully) to do, is to not advocate one position or the other. I just wanted to give a heads up for folks who I know might care but have forgotten what happened.
Oh ok. I was just a little confused by the post not trying to give you a hard time.

I recall looking at the project when it launched. Allegations aside, it looked like a joke. Unrealistic funding goal and too broad a project were just a few of the tell tale signs that this project was poorly conceived from the start. Even nostalgia could not save it.
 



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