Frostburn v. Sandstorm

[MrFilthyIke]

But I can easily see why people disagree with me.

Don't worry, I'm disagree in the "good way" and agree with many things you've said.

 

[The Shaman]

But a lot of things just read as too fantastic. There is rarely much middle ground in the books Wizards puts out. If they keep making everything like this, they nothing seems that fantastic anymore.

I agree - if everything is weird and unusual, then nothing is. Good fantasy, IMHO, starts with a familiar, mudane base and builds from there.

Wizards books are okay, they usually have solid production values but they seem to be written to be useful for a wide variety of people and that makes them a bit weaker over all trying to aply to so many....Where a solid book (one I would define as solid) would be aimed at a smaller audience be more tighltly around certain ideas.

Again I agree - WotC's books strive to be useful to everyone, which means for someone with a tight focus, there is often only a little bit of useable mechanics or flavor in each one.

This is part of why I haven't purchased many WotC books in the last couple of years. It's also why I like Frostburn so much - with respect to the first point, it's less "out-there" than much of what gets published these days, and with respect to the second, the focus was narrow enough that the ratio of useful-to-dreck was enough for me to toss my shekels on the counter.

 

[Crothian]

Don't worry, I'm disagree in the "good way" and agree with many things you've said.

Good, lots of times when I treat Wizards products as average I get treated like I just punched out some's sister.

 

[LeifVignirsson]

I wouldn't know I dont own Frost & Fur. Although I wouldn't mind picking it up when I get the chance. What is in it that make it worth buying?

I have it... It is interesting and I think it was the first shot at this type of thing. It was a way to incorporate a lot of things like Eskimos, Norse and other bits of real culture into your own, with some very interesting feats and skills. I think that F&F was more geared towards the real world where Frostburn was more fantasy...

Okay, what does the Fur in the title imply? Furry armor, different uses for animal part, what? Also how does F&F (and possibly Frostburn) stand up against AEGs Wilds?

Yep, you got it. From Squirrel hide to Yaks and other interesting armor inbetween... Very odd and very useful if you are looking for something like that.

 

[Turjan]

I found them all hit and miss personally, the complete books, the races books, none of it has really been solid from cover to cover.

I agree for those books I know. A good test for me is to read a book, wait a few weeks and then try to remember what was in it. Okay, sometimes it's the really horrible things that stick in my mind, but that's not what I refer to. With several of the recent WotC titles, most of the contents just slips from my mind. This corroborates your assessment of those books.

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Yep, you got it. From Squirrel hide to Yaks and other interesting armor inbetween... Very odd and very useful if you are looking for something like that.

Cool, this I am going to have to look into!

 

[Crothian]

Cool, this I am going to have to look into!

you want squirrel hide????

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Maybe. Just maybe I do.

 

[LeifVignirsson]

Squirrel Hide is a +1 to AC, 8 DEX and that is it... That's all, nothing special about it except the 8 DEX cap... Oh yeah, almost forgot... IT IS SQUIRREL HIDE!

 

[Angel Tarragon]

Still it is SQUIRREL HIDE! Sweeeeet!