Full attack with thrown spear?

[Darklone]

From memory, in 3E, that paragraph was ordered differently; throwing a two-handed weapon in 3E was a full-round action whether it was improvised or not.

They changed the order of the sentences in 3.5, and now it seems to only apply to improvised thrown weapons.

-Hyp.

Right.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm#thrownWeapons

They do list spears under normal thrown weapons. So no problem.

 

[Hussar]

Either way, throwing weapons becomes a sub-par option when you have enough levels to acquire magically enhanced weapons. Throwing those is not usually smart, unless you use the "Returning" enhancement... which is a +1 that doesn't actually improve your weapon, it just lets you use it more than once.

In my opinion, the reason to take a sub-par option would be coolness factor (balanced against not pulling your weight in the party, if they chose better combat options), and "Returning" is anything but cool.

Going with a thrown weapon is hardly sub par. Particularly at low levels where the cost of mighty composite bows is prohibitive. Personally, I played a dwarf who would throw a hammer in one hand, move, then take a two handed grip on his polearm. I get to make a nice attack, pull back and wait for the charge. Or, better yet, throw, move out of charge line and nail him when he moves into range.

It's nice to have a weapon that is a bit more versatile than a bog standard great sword once in a while.

 

[Darklone]

Hussar, your low level tactics are fine... Macchiavelli was speaking about higher levels.

I did love low level halflings with 3 sneak attacks (Ftr1/Rog1/halfling paragon).

Sadly, as soon as throwing starts to be interesting due to the highest possible number of attacks (Rapid Shot+Haste+TWF+ITWF), it's too difficult to get all thrown weapons enchanted. Shuriken work though but don't make up for the loss of weapon damage...

Now that I think about it... halfling paragon + Ranged Weapon Mastery+ Weapon Spec... shuriken... wands of Flame Arrow spell, E-substituted Flame Arrow for cold/sonic/acid/lightning..., GMW spell..., Heroism spell...

That sounds tasty. Guess instead of those wands, an EK build would be interesting... and much cheaper.

 

[hong]

Going with a thrown weapon is hardly sub par.

Yes it is.

 

[Hussar]

Going with thrown weapons to the exclusion of all else is subpar. If you want to be a range weapon monkey, use a bow. True.

But, thrown weapons work nicely in a lot of situations. Fire away with a thrown weapon then fall back works nicely too. For a character like a Scout where you only get one attack per round anyway, thrown weapons can work very, very well.