Vegepygmy
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Order of the Bow Initiates (also from CW) get Close Combat Shot (and don't have to use an exotic weapon to do it).
Full Attacks and AoO Poll
Herzog
Adventurer
The 'Arrow Mind' spell (SpC) (Ranger 1, Sor/Wiz 1) lets you threaten all squares in your normal melee range with a bow. This allows you to make attacks of opportunity, as well as not provocing attacks of opportunity yourself when you fire the bow within melee range of someone else.
Except I'm pretty sure one character with Combat Reflexes can't make multiple attacks against the same target, so the archer taking 4 shots at the CR fighter next to him with a 16+ Dex only gets hit once (potentially).
Ditto. I've never seen this misinterpretation before.
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You agree with a "never seen", but then say you have seen it before.
Typo
Vegepygmy
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Nope. He can make only one AoO per opportunity, but there's no limit how many he can make against the same target.
Incorrect. Each attack constitutes a new opportunity.
There's also no limit to the number of different attackers that may get opportunity attacks for each opportunity.
I have to reluctantly agree that the RAW supports the multiple AoO against a character making a full attack with a ranged weapon and that CR would allow mutliple AoO against the archer.
I personally only would apply it once - as the it seems totally unfair and I would considere the making a ranged attack as part of a full attack action to only be "one" opening here.
I also have a a huge difficulty when applying this rule to spellcasters (and manifestors).
For example a spellcaster in a threatened square makes a successful casting defensively check and then casts a ranged touch attack spell. One school of thought says that the spellcasting and the attack are two separate actions and thus the spellcaster must find a way to avoid 2 AoO. My logic on this is that the attack is part of the spellcasting and thus a successful casting defensively check would eliminate the AoO (well actually the AoO is eliminated by choosing to cast defensively the check is to see if the spell gets off). But it is possible to read the rules to support both sides on the casting/manifesting issue, IMO - with the basis for the argument being on multiple AoO for a full attack with a ranged weapon.
I personally only would apply it once - as the it seems totally unfair and I would considere the making a ranged attack as part of a full attack action to only be "one" opening here.
I also have a a huge difficulty when applying this rule to spellcasters (and manifestors).
For example a spellcaster in a threatened square makes a successful casting defensively check and then casts a ranged touch attack spell. One school of thought says that the spellcasting and the attack are two separate actions and thus the spellcaster must find a way to avoid 2 AoO. My logic on this is that the attack is part of the spellcasting and thus a successful casting defensively check would eliminate the AoO (well actually the AoO is eliminated by choosing to cast defensively the check is to see if the spell gets off). But it is possible to read the rules to support both sides on the casting/manifesting issue, IMO - with the basis for the argument being on multiple AoO for a full attack with a ranged weapon.
Yup - only "movement" has the restriction that only one AoO is allowed for all movement.
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